Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by orwin » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

Like I said when they put workers in chains two weeks ago, shitting on foreign workers and all the cheerleaders here and probably on less liberal outlets are presenting an image of the US individualist culture that I now have to acknowledge.

Having to say to 'UPR' and other anti-atlantist militants 'you were absolutely right' was difficult I will admit.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by Muromec » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

stronglikedan wrote: post #45

tom89999 wrote: post #24

Get your relatives and family out of this shithole and start a new life somewhere else. Why paying taxes for fat crooks? Why working your ass off for major companiel that dont pay taxes? I more and more understand people leaving their home country.

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Life quality wise West Europe is still the best place on this planet.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by DashAnimal » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

jmclnx wrote: post #22

>Some employers have exploited the program to hold down wages, disadvantaging U.S. workers, Change "Some" to "All major employers". I worked at a fortune 500 company in IT and all they hired were H1B employees over the past 15/20 years. The last raise we got that was above inflation and health insurance increases was before 2000. I left 2 years ago and after I left they fired almost everyone in the IT Dept I was in a…

It is absolutely not all major employers. I'm on a visa and have worked for two major tech companies in the US over the last 10 years. I have never been a contractor. I've also compared salaries and know I am doing comparable or better. The majority of my team have always been naturalized citizens.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

JBorrow wrote: post #10

ericmay wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft can also just pay the fee right? My understanding is that it’s on the employer to pay, not the individual. Given that these are incredibly skilled folks this would certainly be annoying if you’re Microsoft (like any other tax or fee) but given the value they get from each employee it seems like $100,000 isn’t much.

Many people on H1Bs work for nonprofits or hospitals, or are otherwise publicly funded.

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Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by Muromec » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

ericmay wrote: post #54

Muromec wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Folks aren’t going to be sitting around on Monday morning saying jeez Billy on the H1B visa didn’t show up to work today and we have no clue why, guess he is fired! I deeply suspect it will go both ways -- one Billy would be paid for, while the other will be fired for not being able to show up. Not every Billy is on the same good standing with the corp.

Sure but that’s just business as usual isn’t it?

Well, yes?

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by jmpman » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

If the $100k fee was then designated for STEM scholarships for underserved students, this policy would be continued even by the democrats. If the justification of H1B is that the US does not produce enough engineers, let’s financially encourage the domestic supply.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by YinglingHeavy » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:43 PM UTC

stronglikedan wrote: post #45

tom89999 wrote: post #24

Get your relatives and family out of this shithole and start a new life somewhere else. Why paying taxes for fat crooks? Why working your ass off for major companiel that dont pay taxes? I more and more understand people leaving their home country.

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I'm convinced that the ills of America are pronounced, moreso than any other developed Nation, to prevent further brain drain from other nations to the US (with, among other things, its privileged reserve currency).

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by 0xy » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:43 PM UTC

Muromec wrote: post #20

This is not what functioning bureaucracy in a functioning democracy looks like.

H1Bs are slave labor and the program is used primarily by sweat shop consultancies who pay them less than Americans. This will be incredible for Americans looking for work. They don't have to compete with artificially cheap workers.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by V__ » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:43 PM UTC

stronglikedan wrote: post #45

tom89999 wrote: post #24

Get your relatives and family out of this shithole and start a new life somewhere else. Why paying taxes for fat crooks? Why working your ass off for major companiel that dont pay taxes? I more and more understand people leaving their home country.

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Come on, you can't be serious.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by Muromec » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 1:43 PM UTC

drooopy wrote: post #12

jjgreen wrote: post #3

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Are you suggesting that people who potentially moved to the US for employment perhaps from the other side of the globe, give everything up immediately and make a 180 and find a new job in another country? Do you have some examples as to how this could work?

I call sunk cost fallacy on this sentiment.