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Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Just another day in the police state.

It's unsettling how quickly things are escalating.

I'm not sure this has anything to do with the current president. This type of cowboy judge shit has been happening for decades, we just rarely hear about it.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

#63

I've seen this other cases like this. 1. The fbi asks you to be an informant or "cooperate" with an investigation in some way. 2. If you refuse, they investigate you, and basically throw the book at you.

Every government agency works this way to the extent that they are able to. Your local building commissioner or whatever just has a lot less money and muscle on tap and much more circuitous access to court judgements in their favor than the FBI does. Differences in their strategic and tactical approach is a reflection of this.

Well, it's punching down. If you are a big corporation or otherwise have the means to fight back, you don't have much to fear.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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they are trying to set precedent. This can kill TOR or other privacy related services in USA easily in current environment.

Several years prior I had a coworker get arrested on CSAM charges because, you guessed it, he ran an Tor exit node. Of course there was no reporting on the Tor aspect, just “local man arrested for CSAM” in the local papers. He eventually had the charges dropped after years of court battles, but his name is forever tarnished as a result. This particular job we had a lot of idealist folks, two of whom ran relays - they…

> This particular job we had a lot of idealist folks, two of whom ran relays - they immediately ceased to do so in the aftermath of the coworker’s arrest

Even from the early days of Tor I remember all of the warnings to not run an exit node in a country where internet activity was likely to lead to prosecution.

Running any sort of proxy (including Tor exit nodes) allows other people’s traffic to appear as your traffic. That’s the entire purpose of the software. You’d have to be willing and able to handle the consequences of any traffic any other person decides to send through the system.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #10

they are trying to set precedent. This can kill TOR or other privacy related services in USA easily in current environment.

That's not the key precedent they are setting. They are working on a much more important case: Making the population understand that disobedience will result in punishment

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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It looks more like he got injured when tackled, but the one guy blocking the camera with his body really makes it hard to tell if they're putting work in or just holding him down. Knowing cops, probably a bit of both.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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The part that should really enrage you is the way people will selectively understand this based on whether they agree or disagree with the context. If some electronics repair guy repairing vehicle ECUs in bulk who doesn't ask questions but has an inkling that they're gonna get used for emissions laws violations got rolled up on by the feds for refusing to go out of his way to help them out HN would find all sorts of…

Context plays a crucial role, especially within the Judeo-Christian tradition. So much so that it serves as a foundation for the design of the modern legal system.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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I can attest as a personal experience in the past that this kind of behavior is not uncommon with feds, and has happened even before the current administration. I've had a five years probation in the past for what the FBI argued that I "hacked" some company from changing the URL in specific ways, not to mention the "clear hacking tools" I had installed in my computer, e.g CCleaner. You know something is wrong when you literally have 98% chance of losing in court against the FBI. They are corrupt and incompetent.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, anyone who has had a Google Pixel and or is running GrapheneOS is guilty by association, right? Just wanted to understand your point.

> By this logic, anyone who has had a Google Pixel and or is running GrapheneOS is guilty by association, right? Yup. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-organized-crim...

The source for that article was a single cop in a single country (Spain) making an off-handed comment. The way it’s been spun as a universal concept in Europe by all of the Android blogs is misleading.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #10

they are trying to set precedent. This can kill TOR or other privacy related services in USA easily in current environment.

Several years prior I had a coworker get arrested on CSAM charges because, you guessed it, he ran an Tor exit node. Of course there was no reporting on the Tor aspect, just “local man arrested for CSAM” in the local papers. He eventually had the charges dropped after years of court battles, but his name is forever tarnished as a result. This particular job we had a lot of idealist folks, two of whom ran relays - they…

Reminds me of a similar case against Dmitry Bogatov in Russia in 2017, it was a big deal back in the day (though of course times have drastically changed and now something like this wouldn't even appear in the news over there).
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