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Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by shantara »

andy_ppp wrote: post #58
shantara wrote: post #38

Looks like “8x” zoom on the new Pro model is actually 4x optical plus extra 2x by pixel binning on the 48MP sensor, compared with 5x optical on the last year’s model.

It’s actually quite irritating 5x zoom, I think 3x is a more useful range for my photos.

I currently have a 14 Pro, and I use 3x zoom a lot. It is usually enough for my regular daily pictures, but when taking the shots during hiking trips I often find myself wishing for a greater zoom. When taking a picture of a distant mountain, or a skittish animal you don’t want to spook by coming closer

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by geerlingguy »

foobarian wrote: post #50
semidror wrote: post #6

With the introduction of ProRes RAW and Genlock, it seems like iPhones can finally be seriously considered for professional movie capture.

> Genlock Finally caught up to the Amiga I see

I know that's /s, but I'm seriously astounded by how many great-at-video cameras come out from Sony, Canon, Nikon, et all that still don't have rudimentary features like genlock or easy timecode integration. Much less the ability to upload video clips and still frames somewhere automatically, in full resolution.

Sometimes I use my iPhone instead of my $3000 camera rig just because I can get the clip somewhere within seconds instead of the 2-3 minute rigamarole of SD card ingestion.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by zozbot234 »

jamesbvaughan wrote: post #47
saynay wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The looks are what they are, but if that wide shelf will mean the phone doesn't wobble when placed on a table, that is a good usability improvement. One of the small things I missed when moving from a Pixel 6 to an iPhone was the ability to not feel compelled to pick it up in order to use it.

> if that wide shelf will mean the phone doesn't wobble when placed on a table, that is a good usability improvement. That's what I had hoped too, but from the images I've seen it looks like the cameras themselves bump out past the shelf far enough that it will still wobble.

We're talking about an Apple iPhone Pro here. It doesn't wobble, it rocks! /s

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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olex wrote: post #45

I get a new iPhone as a work phone bi-yearly, and get to pick the model, with co-pay for anything above the most basic one (currently 16E). In a month or so, it'll be that time again. Last time I went with the non-Pro option was 6 years ago with the 11. Back then I regretted it, it was a clear downgrade from my previous iPhone X (which I consider the first "Pro" iPhone) - largely because of the screen, 11's LCD reall…

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Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by m463 »

olex wrote: post #45

I get a new iPhone as a work phone bi-yearly, and get to pick the model, with co-pay for anything above the most basic one (currently 16E). In a month or so, it'll be that time again. Last time I went with the non-Pro option was 6 years ago with the 11. Back then I regretted it, it was a clear downgrade from my previous iPhone X (which I consider the first "Pro" iPhone) - largely because of the screen, 11's LCD reall…

doesn't lidar help with closeup focusing?

I got lots of blurry closeups on older iphones.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by jonplackett »

m463 wrote: post #67
olex wrote: post #45

I get a new iPhone as a work phone bi-yearly, and get to pick the model, with co-pay for anything above the most basic one (currently 16E). In a month or so, it'll be that time again. Last time I went with the non-Pro option was 6 years ago with the 11. Back then I regretted it, it was a clear downgrade from my previous iPhone X (which I consider the first "Pro" iPhone) - largely because of the screen, 11's LCD reall…

doesn't lidar help with closeup focusing? I got lots of blurry closeups on older iphones.

It still doesn’t focus perfectly. Not convinced LiDAR helps that much

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by cpuguy83 »

mns wrote: post #26
cpuguy83 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess this time the pro really is for pros. The 120hz on the base model is great.

It’s a phone, who or what are those pros that use this in a pro way? And I’m saying this as a pro owner who only got it for the camera, which I use to take casual photos

The best camera is the one you have with you.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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Post by evo »

semidror wrote: post #21
PUSH_AX wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

28 years later was filmed using the iPhone 15 as the sensor/capture device.

IIRC, iPhones (and every other smartphone) records variable frame rate videos (VFR), whereas professional cameras can record constant frame rate videos (CFR). I think that VFR videos need to be re-encoded into CFR videos in order to be able to work with all the footage shot by different devices. It sounds to me like with the Genlock feature, it could actually be possible to record CFR videos on an iPhone and also syn…

One of the big use cases for Genlock these days is when you're doing virtual production with LED walls; you want to make sure the screen refresh of the wall is locked to the shutter of the camera. It's almost like 'vsync' in video game video settings, without it you risk seeing tearing in the backdrops.
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