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OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I've been building https://github.com/styluslabs/maps with support for 3D terrain, custom layers, and plugins for search and routing. Vector tiles are generated and served on-demand by https://github.com/styluslabs/geodesk-tiles so there's no need to download an entire country or region first.

But can you download a country up front? For offroad motorcycle trips I often get in to areas with no mobile connectivity

Yes, you can download any region and set of layers for offline use.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I've been building https://github.com/styluslabs/maps with support for 3D terrain, custom layers, and plugins for search and routing. Vector tiles are generated and served on-demand by https://github.com/styluslabs/geodesk-tiles so there's no need to download an entire country or region first.

Wow the readme looks very impressive, would love to try this on my next off grid trek Is it just you building it, is there a business behind it?

No business, just me!

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I use exactly this feature (and for the exact same reason!) and Organic Maps has been more than helpful for me. Search, Categories, Food, and then View on Map.

Yep. And, unfortunately this is a bit hidden, but if you search "Vegetarian" it finds places where you can eat vegetarian and "Vegan" for places where you can eat vegan. I wonder how many hidden magic search strings like this there are, I'll report an issue for CoMaps to make them discoverable.

> I wonder how many hidden magic search strings like this there are

This drives me insane. I often use OSM for things like "show me all sources of drinking water along this route". But you need the magic key word.

In this case, it's certainly not "drinking water (food) and not "drinking water (tourism)". It's also not "water tab (service)". "Fountain" works mostly OK (since fountain water must be labeled as non potable by law here if it is), but sometimes the fountain will be a tiny bird bath in someone's back yard.

It's so stupid, OSM has data on publicly accessible drinking water, I know because I add them. There's even meta data on whether there's an explicit sign "potable" or not. I just haven't found that magic key word to display them.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I still use OSMAnd because it can take photos (with GPS coordinates) at waypoints while recording a track. I use this to take photos of images from my DSLR while on nature walks. I later download the waypoint photos and upload it to iNaturalist to get the location information I need to link the location to my higher resolution camera images. More reliable than linking my camera to my phone (via Bluetooth) to record t…

JOSM, the OSM editor, has a clever way to do this. It links photos to locations on your track using the timestamp of the photograph. The only problem with that is the time on the camera is probably off by a bit. So to solve that you just take a photo of the time on your GPS device at some point in your walk (usually the start). That's then used to determine the offset to align everything.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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Yeah figured out the map marker thing now. Ticking it off didn't really help because it then just switched to the next one. Just one of those things where the default behaviour isn't great and relies on the user to reconfigure.

Well, the behaviour is great if you're using markers only as short-term working "notes" and always ticking them off when you're done (use favourites for places you want to save longer-term). But yeah the marker feature doesn't explain how it wants you to use it.

I use the markers to loosely transcribe walking routes from books or the web then tick them off during my walk. I was always curious if this is what they're actually designed for, though.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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Yep. And, unfortunately this is a bit hidden, but if you search "Vegetarian" it finds places where you can eat vegetarian and "Vegan" for places where you can eat vegan. I wonder how many hidden magic search strings like this there are, I'll report an issue for CoMaps to make them discoverable.

> I wonder how many hidden magic search strings like this there are This drives me insane. I often use OSM for things like "show me all sources of drinking water along this route". But you need the magic key word. In this case, it's certainly not "drinking water (food) and not "drinking water (tourism)". It's also not "water tab (service)". "Fountain" works mostly OK (since fountain water must be labeled as non potab…

For water specifically, it works well on CoMaps / Organic Maps (search > categories > water).

It's too bad we don't have a convenient UI for desktop. OSM has to be the only thing that's more convenient to use on mobile for no good technical reasons. Just nobody has done it yet.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I've been trying really hard to get off Google Maps and almost managed to do it, but one thing that Google Maps offers and the others are not even close (at least for me) is discoverability. For example if I am out riding some trails and then I want to pop out of the wilderness to grab a bite only Google has been able to provide good information of whats nearby (reviews help a lot as well). Other than that I've been…

I guess that's country-specific. Over here, Google Maps has woefully outdated business info, apart from big names like McDonald or Starbucks. And I'm not even talking about building shapes, sidewalks, paths, or even roads. Meanwhile in OSM, everything is much more detailed and kept up to date. I know, because I'm a mapper myself, and help keep it that way. Google Maps seem like just another ad platform, for companies…

> Google Maps seem like just another ad platform, for companies to pay if they want to be shown in higher zoom levels.

I know, mostly that's my pet peeve as well and I guess I got trained to see through the noise. It is the last Google product that I am struggling to get rid off.

> I guess that's country-specific. Over here,

Where is that?

I am slowly trying to get move to OSM backed apps and hoping to put in the effort as a mapper/contributor as well.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I use Osmand a lot. It work well, but I dearly wish they'd improve some UX issues. I always seem to have the map telling me how far it is to some temporary marker I placed months ago that I can't easily work out how to remove. Also any time I do navigation, the Trip Recording plugin pops up as a sticky system notification even when I haven't enabled trip recording. But the offline navigation is a killer feature, and…

did they implement A* for offline pathing? i remember they were thinking on it and what was in place was oom on my phone

I don't know what algorithm is used. Mostly I'm using it in pretty simple situations like working out the distance to the next campsite along a hiking trail.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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One of the best map apps I saw is Mapy.com -- same OSM database, but works way smoother and looks better than OsmAnd. Less features, of course, but 99% of time I just need to see the map.

Note that Mapy is built by a spyware company, just like Google Maps.

Re: OSMAnd vs. Organic Maps

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I frankly don't see any trouble in paying for open-source software once . I see it as a way to support the development. I often buy "premium" versions even if they add nothing on top of the OSS version. As of OSMAnd, $40 might look like a steep price even for a lifetime unlimited license, but they regularly run sales where the same costs $25.

I paid for OsmAnd+ a long time ago, now it asks me to pay a monthly 2.99 Eur for OsmAnd Pro it seems?

Their pricing model is confusing. There is a one off purchase for + and then a seperate monthly charge for pro. Some features are in both, some are just in one or the other and there doesn't seem to be any logic as to what features go into which.
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