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Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by bzzzt »

darkwater wrote: post #58
franky47 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A protocol designed on who wins an race condition? That's wild.

What are the alternatives, for a mass market standard like USB used literally by everything out there nowadays? Unplug it and plug it again until it works it's easier for everyone that going to some obscure menu (although maybe smartphones/laptop/console could just display a modal "do you want to charge or be charged?")

It could default to charging the device with the lowest battery level. Can't find it but I believe having read years ago Apple does something like that.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by iamtedd »

ffsm8 wrote: post #34
viraptor wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're surprised they still exist... because they target wider audiences?

No, his point was that the lab isn't necessary for the content ltt is producing, so he expected them to stop the lab project to keep the profits higher

What? Labs is the source of all benchmark and performance data they show on the main channel productions.

Labs is necessary for their content.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by KeplerBoy »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #41
yuiegi wrote: post #33

Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch. I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable…

Wow that's some nonsense; if it was proprietary, they would've gone back to using their own connectors.

That's what we're discussing here. Nintendo is doing something proprietary with their usb-c video mode, hence it only works with their dock. Still a usb-c connector though, because they are dirt-cheap.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by ShellfishMeme »

wickedsight wrote: post #39
yuiegi wrote: post #33

Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch. I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable…

It's not that strange. USB-C is a plug, not everyone who implements the plug also implements it correctly. Some chargers with a USB-C Plug might just send a fixed voltage over the cable, rather then implementing the protocols. I'm not saying that's the case for you, but USB-C is a minefield and I've seen some weird things happen with USB-C plugs.

I've once received a USB-C charger with a portable breast milk warmer device that outputted 18V at 2A without doing PD negotiation.

That fried another device when I plugged it in.

This is non compliant in the EU, but when I reported it to the responsible authorities, they didn't feel like doing anything about it.

We are talking about a charger that can fry any device and potentially cause a fire, coming with a product aimed at people with babies, that's clearly non compliant to be sold in the EU, and they are doing nothing at all. Pretty shocking if you ask me.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by ansgri »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #40
raldi wrote: post #32

I was hoping this site was going to be a list of common chargers that worked with the Switch 2.

?? It's USB-C, "all" would be the answer. Unless I'm misinterpreting your hopes.

It's USB-C, "you'll never know" is the answer, often it's "kinda working, but extra slow". I consider having a cheap USB power meter a necessity at this point.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by somat »

darkwater wrote: post #58
franky47 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A protocol designed on who wins an race condition? That's wild.

What are the alternatives, for a mass market standard like USB used literally by everything out there nowadays? Unplug it and plug it again until it works it's easier for everyone that going to some obscure menu (although maybe smartphones/laptop/console could just display a modal "do you want to charge or be charged?")

Usb historically solved this with ended connectors It was why you had "A" and "B" sides. usb C has an awful lot of user hostile fallout considering it's stated goal of "a cable that just works for everything"

I think to solve it, while keeping all the other goals of usb C would be to orient the charging pins on the plug, not charging the direction you want? unplug then flip one side.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by mosquitobiten »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #3

Didn't know LTT's labs was already running. I'll be curious to see how their testing and data compares to gamersnexus testing and what their first catching a manufacturer's lies event will be.

yeah, they catch lies pretty regularly but they don't act like "OMFG THIS IS SOO BAAAD!!!". it's one of the things I like about LTT, they are more neutral or positive in their content. they try to be viral but usually don't ride the negativity/toxic viral wave.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by Podrod »

reactordev wrote: post #35

They did this to micro sd cards on the first switch. Looks like they found another way. Nintendo isn’t customer friendly. Gone are the days of the N64 and gone are the days of Nintendo pushing the boundaries of fun and entertainment. Now, they make underpowered handhelds for kids with proprietary dongles like Apple in hopes of trapping their customers to their platform. No thanks.

Nintendo have always been a company making toys for kids. Kid toys that are also fun for adults but still primarily for kids.

It's the same company as when you were a kid playing N64 or SNES or NES or whatever, just now you're older and jaded.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Post by klausa »

somat wrote: post #67
darkwater wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the alternatives, for a mass market standard like USB used literally by everything out there nowadays? Unplug it and plug it again until it works it's easier for everyone that going to some obscure menu (although maybe smartphones/laptop/console could just display a modal "do you want to charge or be charged?")

Usb historically solved this with ended connectors It was why you had "A" and "B" sides. usb C has an awful lot of user hostile fallout considering it's stated goal of "a cable that just works for everything" I think to solve it, while keeping all the other goals of usb C would be to orient the charging pins on the plug, not charging the direction you want? unplug then flip one side.

Having a plug that works differently based on the orientation it’s plugged in, feels like it would not quite be „keeping all the other goals of USB-C”.
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