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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by TimeBearingDown »

echelon wrote: post #10
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #7

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Terms of service specifically prohibits this.

The companies stole that data from the world, so I don't see why we couldn't take it back.

It's a nice sentiment. The companies with the integrations are the ones that could take it back, but they don't have the incentive to break legal agreements and share with the world.

Meanwhile the creative output of humanity is distilled into black boxes to benefit those who can scrape it the most and burn the most power, but this impact is distributed amongst everyone, so again there's little incentive among those who could create (likely legal) change.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by PessimalDecimal »

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote: post #21
drusepth wrote: post #11

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Ironically, you could probably vibe code your own.

Do you really think so? Have you ever explored the source of something like: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community

Doesn't have to. The LLM will do it! We're done with code, aren't we?

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by MangoToupe »

aniforprez wrote: post #17
MangoToupe wrote: post #15

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> Apple can’t even ship software that works. Hey they're doing better than anyone else.

Big disagree. My Macbook has hard crashed into restarting more times than my PC desktop has in years. The other day I literally just closed my M2 Macbook and it for some reason just completely crashed and shut itself off.

Man, agree to disagree. What you're describing is somehow still miles better than any experience I've ever had with a windows or linux latptop.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by typpilol »

gary_0 wrote: post #40
computerliker wrote: post #18

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https://kate-editor.org/

I couldn't get it to properly syntax highlight and autosuggest even after spending over an hour hunting through all sorts of terrible documentation for kate, clangd, etc. It also completely hides all project files that aren't in source control, and the only way to stop it is to disable the git plugin. What a nightmare. Maybe I'll try VSCodium next.

I thought vscodium was just vscode but open source. Won't any issues in vscode also be present in vscodium?

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by PessimalDecimal »

mr_toad wrote: post #64
kristopolous wrote: post #16

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Neovim, emacs?

Amusing that Emacs that came out of the MIT AI lab, and heavily uses Lisp, a language that used to be en vogue for AI research.

Amusing is one word for it. Expert systems were all the rage until they weren't. We'll see how LLMs do by comparison.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by isodev »

jama211 wrote: post #48
throwawa14223 wrote: post #8

It's getting harder to find IDEs that properly boycott LLMs.

“Boycott” is a pretty strong term. I’m sensing a strong dislike of ai from you which is fine but if you dislike a feature most people like it shouldn’t be surprising to you that you’ll find yourself mostly catered to by more niche editors.

I think it's a pretty good word, let's not forget how LLMs learned about code in the first place... by "stealing" all the snippets they can get their curl hands on.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by isodev »

spaceywilly wrote: post #9
Archonical wrote: post #4

This is great. I've been using Xcode with a separate terminal to run Claude Code, which has been a painful setup.

I use VS Code with Claude Code, then I just use Xcode to build and launch

Same, only it's Zed for me and Claude Code in a terminal
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