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Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Whoever you sold it to would have to have a valid Firefox trademark in a different field like the original owner did, or Firefox would be to snag it via a trademark lawsuit. Or you could sell it to a malware site, who would lose it fairly quickly but might be able to make some cash in the meantime. I can't imagine they'd earn much though. The old firefox.com didn't have Google juice until after the transition. The on…

https://nissan.com/ even after his death didn't sell out to the car manufacturer ( https://www.nissan-global.com/ ).

Now just has a memorial page for him. Not sure if it'd qualify as an Internet version of a "spite house" but it doesn't seem that far off.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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That‘s… commendable… or foolish? I would have rented or sold it to the highest bidder.

Whoever you sold it to would have to have a valid Firefox trademark in a different field like the original owner did, or Firefox would be to snag it via a trademark lawsuit. Or you could sell it to a malware site, who would lose it fairly quickly but might be able to make some cash in the meantime. I can't imagine they'd earn much though. The old firefox.com didn't have Google juice until after the transition. The on…

But Firefox is a for profit company worth millions? Why would you just donate it like that to a corporation? For the longest time I thought Mozilla was a non profit org but it doesn’t seem to be the case and they have millions in the bank? I would sell it for a fair price for both parties.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Whoever you sold it to would have to have a valid Firefox trademark in a different field like the original owner did, or Firefox would be to snag it via a trademark lawsuit. Or you could sell it to a malware site, who would lose it fairly quickly but might be able to make some cash in the meantime. I can't imagine they'd earn much though. The old firefox.com didn't have Google juice until after the transition. The on…

But Firefox is a for profit company worth millions? Why would you just donate it like that to a corporation? For the longest time I thought Mozilla was a non profit org but it doesn’t seem to be the case and they have millions in the bank? I would sell it for a fair price for both parties.

Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit entity wholly owned by the Mozilla Foundation. That's why they can keep lots of cash on hand and reinvest it into the business.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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It was on Mozilla.org before redirecting to getfirefox.com. Now, Mozilla has acquired Firefox.com and that’s the new canonical home. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37279788

When did Firefox Sync start using accounts.firefox.com for their login site? One assumes they’ve owned it since at least then, if not before. https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Amozilla-firefox%2Ffirefox... says 2014? So probably earlier than that, though I don't know for sure when.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Literally everyone I know who isn't technical calls Firefox "mozilla". Including older people.

And Acrobat “Adobe”. I wonder if those mistakes are less prevalent in cultures where the family name comes first.

Acrobat Reader was called "Adobe Reader" for a good number of years.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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In this day and age anyone going against profit motive is commendable. the default is "fuck people over but not care because you're abstracted away from them". It's the tragedy of our times. Big respect for anyone who's willing to fight it.

many times it is rationalized as "fuck people over because even if I don't, someone else will, so I might as well be the one to profit". An attitude that scales well from individuals to big corporations.

That's what makes not doing it moral

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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>I would have rented or sold it to the highest bidder. Do you also steal from the library? Mozilla isn't some big bad corporation. Personally, I'd be a little wary of pissing off the hackers who are fans of that browser using my meatspace name, but hey, you do you. Maybe when you're done you can stroll on down to the local motorcycle bar and kick over some Harleys and see how far that takes you in life.

Relax dude, it’s just a domain name

The Firefox gang's about to bust my kneecaps.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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That‘s… commendable… or foolish? I would have rented or sold it to the highest bidder.

And what, have it serve as malware/phishing? Thankfully most people still seem to have morals and not fallen prey to pure capitalism

You are thinking all wrong, I wouldn't want to connect some hardcore wirefraud to myself.

I would have found someone on upwork to write me a firefox fork that contains a crypto miner.

The website would have some small print checkbox, making end users actively consent to mining crypto as payment for using the browser for free.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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It includes older people because Mozilla had previous work before Firefox, so they heard that name first. I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that, including non-technical people who somehow still have a nostalgic and/or ideological affinity for Firefox.

> I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that Anecdotally, I’ve heard both people older and younger than you calling it Mozilla. And not tech-illiterate people, either.

> And not tech-illiterate people, either.

Yeah, again, probably because tech-literate (not tech-illiterate) people are more likely to know the history of the organization beyond when they started using the software. My point was pretty much that the know-nothing user learning about the software today/recently knows it's called Firefox and might never have heard of Mozilla. The branding is clear about Firefox and the Mozilla name is essentially background knowledge.

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