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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by SoftTalker »

soperj wrote: post #53
Deuter8 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?

Thinkpads still have buttons. I don't ever use the trackpad, just the nub and buttons.

Best keyboard/mouse implementation ever. I use a thinkpad keyboard on my desktop. A separate mouse feels so klunky by comparison.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by Deuter8 »

criddell wrote: post #14
Deuter8 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops. Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option ?

What workflows are impossible with a trackpad but possible with a mouse?

While I prefer an external mouse, I can manage ECAD and some 3D modelling if I have buttons. It's great in a pinch. I'm getting nauseous even imagining it with a clickpad.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by [deleted] »

vzaliva wrote: post #40

The idea of Framework laptops sounds great! But I’m wondering: has anyone done an economic analysis comparing buying a Framework laptop a few years ago and gradually upgrading it, versus buying a similar popular brand laptop and just upgrading by getting a new model? I’m not trolling, I’m genuinely considering Framework as my next laptop.

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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by jerlam »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #49
christiangenco wrote: post #42

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Hah, I'm curious if this is legally possible. I've never seen that on any non-ThinkPad laptop.

I have multiple Dell laptops that have a mouse nub in the middle of the keyboard

I've used it on a Dell laptop too, but it was far inferior to the Trackpoint. I think IBM/Lenovo had a patent on the specific technology but it might be expired now.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by Deuter8 »

sorrythanks wrote: post #48
diggan wrote: post #43

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With the trackpads that have built-in clicks in the pad itself, I've always found it really difficult to drag-and-drop stuff if it has to be pulled longer than a few pixels. Just moving and pressing against a surface seems to not be a super accurate movement in general.

Have you tried holding with one finger and aiming with the other?

Have you? The precision vs a touchpad with buttons isn't even close. It may well be a driver issue in Linux, all I know for sure is that it's an issue that does not exist with touchpads and that I have already spent far too much of my life fiddling with settings trying to get it to behave.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by neilv »

miloignis wrote: post #46
vzaliva wrote: post #40

The idea of Framework laptops sounds great! But I’m wondering: has anyone done an economic analysis comparing buying a Framework laptop a few years ago and gradually upgrading it, versus buying a similar popular brand laptop and just upgrading by getting a new model? I’m not trolling, I’m genuinely considering Framework as my next laptop.

Another consideration that has really come true for me is repairs - I accidentally spilled a bottle of gin over my framework and was able to only replace the main board for under half the cost of a brand new machine. I'm very happy with my framework!

The bottle of gin is to drown the sorrows of not having a TrackPoint keyboard?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Post by kombine »

I love the modularity, but unlike the 13" version this one is just too bulky. For this reason I am eyeing up Thinkpad P1, even though it is only available with an Intel CPU.
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