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California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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Can they afford a middle class lifestyle with just 100k? My understanding of costs of living in California puts people in that range in the working class with a very low rate of savings (no hope to escape into middle class even with compounding) or they could afford a small family and no savings.

Are you accounting for debt? I hope people are also ditching massive student debt on top of widening career options

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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That's good for CS and CE related work. Too many people went there not because they liked programming or engineering but because they wanted to get rich fast. Hopefully this means the clogged up job market will stop being the clown circus it is now.

And as an educator, I also look forward to more classes where people genuinely want to learn the material and aren't just in it for the money.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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I didn’t say that there was an alternative. Just that 100k doesn’t make them rich.

Apple, Tesla et al tell you you're not rich, but you can be if you want to be. Learned helplessness.

… but not in most cities in CA is the OP’s point, actually not even is most large cities on either coast. Which isn’t to say it’s not possible, you could definitely live well elsewhere on that salary but there is an obsession with coastal cities.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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Will they make the 100k in the lower income parts of Cali though?

There's this really innovative practice done called commuting.

It can take 16 hours to drive across California.

I can’t believe you’re trying to be sarcastically condescending with this kind of comment. It’s difficult to respect that.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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That's good for CS and CE related work. Too many people went there not because they liked programming or engineering but because they wanted to get rich fast. Hopefully this means the clogged up job market will stop being the clown circus it is now.

Getting rich fast, and doing what you love in your spare time, rather than pretending you love your work, which no one does, sounds perfectly coherent to me.

I've always found design to be deeply fulfilling work, not something I need to pretend to love.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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There's this really innovative practice done called commuting.

It can take 16 hours to drive across California. I can’t believe you’re trying to be sarcastically condescending with this kind of comment. It’s difficult to respect that.

They're just matching your energy. $100k is an entry-level number in this conversation and, yes, solidly middle class in most cities in California. There's no shortage of homes in nice neighborhoods available here for under $600k, including in large metros like Sacramento. You aren't going to find that in the Bay Area, but the Bay Area isn't representative of the whole state. Not even close.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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The jobs probably aren't disappearing because of AI but because of previous over-hiring and a slowing economy. It seems like a cover story to push people into accepting underemployment.

CTE/Vocational education leading to underemployment is some straight up Boomer propaganda. A 18 year old who goes from graduation to the electrical union will make $60k in year one. Sure, not the total comp package that those in tech covet but have you looked at median income?

Do apprentices really earn that much before they become journeymen? I thought there was some sort of process in place where you got some in the job training at the expense of getting paid less, at least in construction.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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Blue collar is the only bastion safe from AI. As we office workers lose our jobs we need to retrain

Longshoremen in the USA have had to fight tooth and nail to avoid the automation that the other world ports of adopted, much to the detriment of port capacity.

Re: California teens are ditching office jobs – and making $100K before they turn 21

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Erm: https://youtu.be/NZf-fTK7q7E?t=592 Sure, he has eye and ear protection. But he's just inhaling the dust from that stuff. Even worse, he's using old school stick welding that's actually been banned in multiple places because it was so stupidly toxic. All your video did was reinforce that, yeah, industrial work looks exactly like what I expect it to look like and it still sucks .

He's descaling with his mouth shut. Not inhaling. > Even worse, he's using old school stick welding. Can you show an example of that? (You linked to him using a needle gun not a stick welder) He's got top of the range spooled feed welders and does jobs at a scale that take hundreds of metres of feed .. these are not the jobs you spend all day swapping sticks for. If you watched more of the channel you might pick up a…

He's gouging via stick. No breathing apparatus. https://youtu.be/NZf-fTK7q7E?t=253
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