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Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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Post by 0_____0 » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 12:25 PM UTC

sixtyj wrote: post #57

0_____0 wrote: post #43

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What makes you think ads and the equivalent to SEO aren't coming for the LLM products? These companies are going to have to turn a profit eventually...

It is just a question of time when we would need AdBlock for LLM…

I've been very reluctant to enter any queries into any LLM that might let on more than I'm willing to make public. I think about the people who poured their romantic energy into LLMs - beyond how dystopian that is on its face, the LLM vendors now have the ability to ad-target that person to within an inch of their life, and every incentive to exploit this to the max they can.

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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Post by sixtyj » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

0_____0 wrote: post #61

sixtyj wrote: post #57

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It is just a question of time when we would need AdBlock for LLM…

I've been very reluctant to enter any queries into any LLM that might let on more than I'm willing to make public. I think about the people who poured their romantic energy into LLMs - beyond how dystopian that is on its face, the LLM vendors now have the ability to ad-target that person to within an inch of their life, and every incentive to exploit this to the max they can.

Yup. Try ask any LLM after few queries how it sees you :)

A lot of people will be surprised by how precise their ad feed will be. Gold mine.

There is very thin red line when it just works and when it starts to be creepy.

Remember Google. Don’t do evil. Kek. Now, it is Altman, Musk, Zuckerberg - they have no empathy…

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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Post by gerdesj » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 11:31 PM UTC

svachalek wrote: post #34

gerdesj wrote: post #17

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You ask Chat to add some tags to its output, via your prompt. You get your browser to filter output that is not tagged properly. Counter measures will need another LLM "AI" to filter out efforts to filter out ads from my prompts. However, when openai's adversary is their customer, my money is on me!

That's a dumb way to do advertising. The "right" way is to shift all the weights a little, so that it's influencing you with everything it says but you don't even see it happening.

The "nudge" done right!