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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by seabrookmx »

harshitaneja wrote: post #12

I have been on an M1 macbook pro since launch and while I love the hardware, easily my favourite device I have ever owned but MacOS has just always been the thing to be the faustian bargain coming from being a linux person. I spend a lot of time SSHed into more GPU capable linux machines for most of my work and thus get an escape but after driving a friend's linux machine I started looking for a way to daily drive a…

The Framework 13 Linux support is fantastic, and the hardware is pretty great too.

Battery is good enough (5-6hrs) for me on the AMD model (Ryzen AI 5 340) but definitely not Macbook territory in that regard.

I run Fedora and have coworkers who run Ubuntu and Arch as well without issue.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by piskov »

0xfaded wrote: post #24
spangry wrote: post #11

Oh darn, I thought they'd gotten Arch running on an M1 but they actually switched to a ThinkBook. I somewhat regret my expensive switch from Linux to MacOS. MacOS is just so weird, it doesn't make any sense to me. For the first time in my life I feel like some tech-illiterate grandpa trying to figure out how to make his blasted computer do stuff.

Same, I have a Mac at work and can suffer the horrible window management by just having more physical monitors (3 + the built in screen). I bought one for home use because I liked the hardware and the idea of running local llms. Long story short I'm still using my 6 year old Thinkpad running arch.

For mac try moom: easily best keyboard-based windows management.

As for spaces: just create a few (important), then go to system settings and map alt 1-5 to switch between those

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by piskov »

jasoneckert wrote: post #29

I think the biggest takeaway from this blog post is that developers and other professionals should take more note of the tiling window managers available on Linux like Sway and Hyprland - they are insanely fast and customizable to exactly what we need to be more productive. I'm a Sway user (ironically on Fedora Asahi Remix on a Mac) and I won't have it any other sway... er... I mean way.

Komorebi on windows is the exact same thing

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by Tiberium »

throwmeaway222 wrote: post #56

I don't know if anyone else agrees, but for some reason no one can replicate the smoothness of the Apple trackpad. And now with that PLUS the heatless apple silicon - I don't think I could go to another OS and the x86 hardware world. I would just feel like I'm in clunky-land. Now don't get me wrong, I like a lot about Linux desktops, but Mac gets a lot of things right. I don't want to take anything away from people m…

I do agree that Apple Silicon is way, way more energy efficient and comparable to some top desktop x86 chips, but.. From reading different reviews and tests apparently it's normal for the CPU/SoC to reach a temperature of up 100C at full load, with the case being around 45-50C. Do you mean "heatless" as in specifically the outside case temperature - so those x86 laptops heat up the case way more than that?

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

rogerrogerr wrote: post #26
spangry wrote: post #11

Oh darn, I thought they'd gotten Arch running on an M1 but they actually switched to a ThinkBook. I somewhat regret my expensive switch from Linux to MacOS. MacOS is just so weird, it doesn't make any sense to me. For the first time in my life I feel like some tech-illiterate grandpa trying to figure out how to make his blasted computer do stuff.

Curious, what is it that doesn’t make sense?

I can't figure out how to set a shortcut that moves the current window to my other monitor. Always have to go into the toolbar to do it.

Edit: And oh! Why do I constantly have to (painfully manually) maximize windows. Preview is constantly choosing a different size, for example. Why is this not remembered.

I can't recall the last time an application in linux forgot its size after restarting.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by asteroidburger »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #67
rogerrogerr wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious, what is it that doesn’t make sense?

I can't figure out how to set a shortcut that moves the current window to my other monitor. Always have to go into the toolbar to do it. Edit: And oh! Why do I constantly have to (painfully manually) maximize windows. Preview is constantly choosing a different size, for example. Why is this not remembered. I can't recall the last time an application in linux forgot its size after restarting.

You might like https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by mrtksn »

spangry wrote: post #11

Oh darn, I thought they'd gotten Arch running on an M1 but they actually switched to a ThinkBook. I somewhat regret my expensive switch from Linux to MacOS. MacOS is just so weird, it doesn't make any sense to me. For the first time in my life I feel like some tech-illiterate grandpa trying to figure out how to make his blasted computer do stuff.

Considering that macOS is popular among even actual tech-illiterates, it is safe to say that their system is probably pretty logical and easy but since you are a power user on something else you will have to unlearn you previous ways of doing things. At some point it will click and you'll be fine.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by adastra22 »

0xfaded wrote: post #24
spangry wrote: post #11

Oh darn, I thought they'd gotten Arch running on an M1 but they actually switched to a ThinkBook. I somewhat regret my expensive switch from Linux to MacOS. MacOS is just so weird, it doesn't make any sense to me. For the first time in my life I feel like some tech-illiterate grandpa trying to figure out how to make his blasted computer do stuff.

Same, I have a Mac at work and can suffer the horrible window management by just having more physical monitors (3 + the built in screen). I bought one for home use because I liked the hardware and the idea of running local llms. Long story short I'm still using my 6 year old Thinkpad running arch.

I think it is just us getting old. I used Linux since high school in the 90's, through all the way to the late 00's. I switched to OS X (long before it was macOS) because that's where all the and coming developer tools were, and I got tired of being sysadmin to my own Linux install as things break.

Now I'm the opposite of you. I WANT to run Linux, and I have both a recent Framework and Lenovo laptop at home that I bought for this purpose. But I have some issue with Nvidia drivers, or just stuck down a rabbit hole trying to configure a GUI the way I want, or whatever, and I give up and go back to macOS where everything is familiar and works out of the box. I'm too old and/or busy to deal with that shit, but it probably reflects my age more than it does macOS vs Linux.

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