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EOL for LeCunn.
TBD (LLMs / "super-intelligence")
FAIR (LeCun - JEPA and other long-term research)
Productization
Infrastructure
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The best performing founder / ceo in the 21st century is someone who is unlikable and promotes / develops unlikable products. That seems impossible. What does that say about us? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that most of the products being promoted are actually highly treasured by a large number of people.
Key word "performing". If you want feel warm feelings about your heroes, don't make your heros CEOs who are ultimately judged on how large of a return they can give their shareholders.
At first, sure. The more time passes, however, the less CEOs are judged solely on monetary returns.
Hell, IMO, to judge a CEO solely on monetary returns in the present is selective reasoning at best.
EOL for LeCunn.
I follow him on LinkedIn: he works on the things that will come in 10 years, not on the products that Meta ships in 1-2 years. LeCunn is going to be there for some time.
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I don't think that's fair. It's R&D for a potential infinite money/effort hack. Unless you're in the camp that thinks only meat can be intelligent, depending on your perspective, it can be considered somewhere between useful research and critical research, including for the pursuit of things like "housing". Maybe all the learnings of the specific architectures/implementations will be thrown out in the end, but that's…
So what's the goal? Summon a god?
You have to have these people that can speak these horrible languages, study for years unimpeded for likely no goal, can finance expeditions to the bottom of the ocean and fail again and again, sacrifice the right victims at the right times, etc. These people that will awaken Cthulhu have to be some of the most brilliant in human history (so says the lovecraftian mythos), and then they have to throw away all their brains and money and time to awaken the 'do not awaken under any circumstances' dark god of terror and soul consuming ambivalence.
Like, there isn't anyone out there that is that stupid. Totally breaks the immersion of the worldbuilding, right?
...right?
$72 billion per year to create yet another chatbot. Imagine if this were spent on useful research or housing.
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You make interesting points so let's take a more nuanced view of things: I'll agree Zuck is amazing at spotting large macro trends in technology and capitalizing on them (VR he was a little early at, but I still buy it could be big). However, he wasn't able to do that with AI, the big companies and startups weren't selling. So the question is, can he build a team? I'm skeptical, he put Alexandr Wang, someone who neve…
It's far too early to call anything with "AI" - and I will be unsurprised if we enter another AI Winter as LLMs turn into a dead end. If GPT-6, 7 and 8 continue to see diminishing returns on performance as we say from GPT-4.5 to GPT-5, then I see it becoming a winner take all of OpenAI. What I think is ignored is how at the time, all the investors were singing Meta's doom due to Apple retiring IDFA and META's stock w…
I really disagree with this take, if LLMs stop progressing you still have major FAANG corporations (like Meta!) paying gobs of money to Anthropic to increase dev productivity.
If LLMs only help the average office worker increase their productivity by 10%, that is still a huge multi-billion dollar market waiting to be captured.
You make good points about people doubting Zuck and Meta before and them being spectacularly wrong, I'm certainly not willing to bet the house against him right now. I think if he had been able to buy Thinking Machines I would have thought it was very similar to Instagram or WhatsApp.
But he wasn't able to, so now i'm not sure it's a done deal that Meta won't be wasting many billions.
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You must be kidding. Telsa isn't impressive? The first real EV manufacturer? Going from nothing to the best selling car on the planet in 20 years? Not impressive. One of only 11 companies in the world. With a trillion dollar valuation. More than tripling revenue from 2020 to 2024? Not impressive... You have some pretty astronomical standards. I do agree about Facebook and Facebook not being in the same tier. Space X…
__FOUNDER__/CEO. Musk is not the founder of Tesla. He invested in 2004, then became CEO in 2008.
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I don't think that's fair. It's R&D for a potential infinite money/effort hack. Unless you're in the camp that thinks only meat can be intelligent, depending on your perspective, it can be considered somewhere between useful research and critical research, including for the pursuit of things like "housing". Maybe all the learnings of the specific architectures/implementations will be thrown out in the end, but that's…
So what's the goal? Summon a god?
It's interesting how these conversations usually turn irrational, immediately.
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__FOUNDER__/CEO. Musk is not the founder of Tesla. He invested in 2004, then became CEO in 2008.
He is listed as a founder and was the CEO before they took in any actual money and it's now the 9th largest company in the world.
2. The first Roadster was shipped (to Musk, funny enough), 8 months before Elon became CEO. Let's be reasonable - I don't know how you can apply the founder/ceo label to a guy who was not ceo when their first product had already shipped.
There are plenty of stories (especially pre-Zuckerberg), or people starting companies, then being replaced by the board by a "real CEO" once they raised real money. These people are not founder/ceos. Google has a near identical path to Tesla; after Google's first real venture round, they hired Eric Schmidt as CEO, but Eric Schmidt is not the "founder" of Google.
I understand Elon has tied his public image to being the "founder" of Tesla; to the point that there was a lawsuit involved. However let's talk in plain terms here, he is not a founder of Tesla in binary terms.
Again, if it makes you feel better - you can read through my comments and note that I have never said anything qualitative about Tesla. I've said nothing about their growth, market cap, or Elon sleeping on production floors. I've simply said Elon was not a founder at Tesla, and therefore is not the group of people I think of as exceptional founder/ceos.
If you really wanted to steelman your argument, you'd be using SpaceX, which he did start, and was involved with before Tesla.
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He is listed as a founder and was the CEO before they took in any actual money and it's now the 9th largest company in the world.
1. I've never denied any of the accomplishments of tesla, so I don't know why you keep re-iterating them. Do you work for Tesla's marketing dept? 2. The first Roadster was shipped (to Musk, funny enough), 8 months before Elon became CEO. Let's be reasonable - I don't know how you can apply the founder/ceo label to a guy who was not ceo when their first product had already shipped. There are plenty of stories (especia…