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Re: Pirate library operator arrested, study canceled for 330k members

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Post by immibis » Sun, Aug 17, 2025, 2:51 PM UTC

cyberpunk wrote: post #11

squigz wrote: post #10

Access to education and information should be free - or at the very least a lot less broken than it is today. https://annas-archive.org/torrents

I really would love to help out, but I don't have 650TB of storage laying around :( The logistics of this archive are quite crazy; most 2-4U JBODs I worked with hold like 24 or 45 SFF SAS disks. Standard size (unless things have changed) for 10k sff sas disks seems to be about 1.2TB, so you'd need 544 of these to build a raidz big enough. So we're talking 12 4U jbods, well over a full rack. I guess I can just hope so…

> 10k sff sas disks

There's your problem. Ordinary consumer LFF SATA disks go up to 30TB-ish now, though that may not be the most cost-effective size (or it may be, when you consider the cost of the drive bays as well).

Re: Pirate library operator arrested, study canceled for 330k members

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Post by metadat » Sun, Aug 17, 2025, 6:24 PM UTC

sliken wrote: post #54

cyberpunk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really would love to help out, but I don't have 650TB of storage laying around :( The logistics of this archive are quite crazy; most 2-4U JBODs I worked with hold like 24 or 45 SFF SAS disks. Standard size (unless things have changed) for 10k sff sas disks seems to be about 1.2TB, so you'd need 544 of these to build a raidz big enough. So we're talking 12 4U jbods, well over a full rack. I guess I can just hope so…

24TB drives are quite available, $300 on newegg. Buy a Data60 (60 disk chassis), add 60 drives. Buy a 1U server (2 for redundancy). I'd recommend 5 stripes of 11 drives (55 total) with 5 global spares. Use a RAIDz3 so 8 disks of data per 11 drives. Total storage should be around 8 * 24 * 5 = 960GB, likely 10% less because of marketing 10^9 bytes instead of 2^30 for drive sizes. Another 10% because ZFS doesn't like to…

There are also enterprise SSDs in existence now which pack more than 200TB into a single NVMe drive. $$$$$, though (for the foreseeable future?)

Kioxia LC9 SSD Hits 245.76TB of Capacity in a Single Drive - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44643038 (22 days ago, 7 comments)

-> https://www.servethehome.com/kioxia-lc9-ssd-hits-245-76tb-of...

SanDisk's "reply": Sandisk unveils 256 TB SSD for AI workloads, shipping in 2026 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44823148 (10 days ago, no discussion)

-> https://blocksandfiles.com/2025/08/05/sandisk-pre-announces-...

Re: Pirate library operator arrested, study canceled for 330k members

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Post by pbronez » Sun, Aug 17, 2025, 8:43 PM UTC

neya wrote: post #45

The real issue is modern day purchasing is not ownership. It's not even leasing. It's you pay the full list price for a PDF or music file that can disappear anytime from your library if the corpo-rats decide it shouldn't be available to you anymore. If purchasing isn't ownership, then piracy shouldn't be theft.

I would like to have a trustworthy, privacy-respecting digital asset licensing service. Ideally free from profit motives, maybe run my a government, maybe a non profit. Regardless, i want my right to engage with a work separated from the manifestation of that work. Movies Anywhere kinda does this, but I want it to go way, way further.

Buy a book? You now own a the right to read that book from whatever file. Subscribe to Disney+? You have the right to watch all the marvel movies. Even when those movies are chopped and re-edited into a massive full chronology.

If a digital store ceases operations, you retain the rights to the bits. Maybe you have to do some work to get access to them, but you’re perfectly within your rights to torrent those bits.

Heck, maybe you could like the rights management to distribution. Have a right to the bits? Please seed.

Re: Pirate library operator arrested, study canceled for 330k members

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Post by atom_arranger » Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

wrp wrote: post #5

In South Korea, educational inequality due to inability to afford educational materials has been an issue for many years. The argument against piracy is that people have the right to be compensated for their work. Consider this argument in the context of medical services. The extreme pirate position is equivalent to expecting doctors to provide cosmetic surgery for free. The extreme industry position is equivalent to…

The anti piracy stance would be making it illegal for a surgeon/person to copy the procedure another surgeon invented without payment. Copying does not require additional labor from the inventor.

Obviously we would like the inventor of the procedure to be compensated, but is it worth depriving other people, or potentially them dying, to protect "intellectual property"?