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I tried to make a c-compiler in gleam. One thing I really didn't like is the lack of interfaces/type-classes and lack of composition operator.
[1] https://gleam.run/frequently-asked-questions/#will-gleam-hav...
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Of course it is. You can't be against anything without an idea, without it you wouldn't be opposed, you'd just not give a shit. Not caring isn't ideological just like not believing in god isn't, but being anti-god? That's pure ideology.
Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism.
This is some "critical theory" nonsense. The real world isn't divided into two camps, "those actively for" and "those actively against". You can, and should, just go about your life.
You'll live a happier, more mentally-healthy life by just ignoring the noise and not getting pulled into some sort of "if you're not with us, you're against us" thing.
Gleam is a language, and just like all languages - be it English, Spanish, C++, Python, musical notes, and more - both agreeable and disagreeable people will use it. It's impossible to prevent people who you disagree with from using a language. There's no point in even trying - all you succeed in doing is giving yourself mental grief, anxiety and hardship.
Just do your thing...
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Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism.
> Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism. This is some "critical theory" nonsense. The real world isn't divided into two camps, "those actively for" and "those actively against". You can, and should, just go about your life. You'll live a happier, more mentally-healthy life by just ignoring the noise and not getting pulled into some sort of "if you're not with us, you're against us" thing. Gleam is a lan…
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Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism.
> Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism. This is some "critical theory" nonsense. The real world isn't divided into two camps, "those actively for" and "those actively against". You can, and should, just go about your life. You'll live a happier, more mentally-healthy life by just ignoring the noise and not getting pulled into some sort of "if you're not with us, you're against us" thing. Gleam is a lan…
Does that prevent a Nazi from using Gleam? No. But the actual objective is to set the tone.
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I used to think it was kinda pander-y, but then after participating in some of these communities it was just obnoxious when it wasn't stated, the cultural wedge between people. Where randomly there was drama from someone posting an unrelated yet offensive meme/joke, then it was a huge discussion on if it was ban worthy, if it was okay to joke about, or xyz. When really I just wanted to be nerdy with others.
I get that. You can put up the signs, but it doesn't need to be a regular, loud topic in the community. In fact, the signs should serve to prevent the need to discuss it in the community and make moderation cleaner and easier.
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> Shouldn't be that blatantly ideological, it's not a political platform Yeah! This always stands out like a sore thumb on the website. Like _yeah_, all of it should go without saying! You're a freely available programming language, of course everyone can use it! Of course everyone is welcome! Does a hammer care about your gender or race? No, anyone can use it! It's also very weird and a little childish to specifical…
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> Shouldn't be that blatantly ideological, it's not a political platform Yeah! This always stands out like a sore thumb on the website. Like _yeah_, all of it should go without saying! You're a freely available programming language, of course everyone can use it! Of course everyone is welcome! Does a hammer care about your gender or race? No, anyone can use it! It's also very weird and a little childish to specifical…
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Can you be more specific? I'm curious about the types of "slightly right leaning" things that you think are reasonable to say in a programming language community, but that would be controversial or forbidden in a "highly politicised"/"no nazi bullshit" community.
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Of course it is. You can't be against anything without an idea, without it you wouldn't be opposed, you'd just not give a shit. Not caring isn't ideological just like not believing in god isn't, but being anti-god? That's pure ideology.
Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism.
In The Good Place, a brilliant show, there’s a great scene where we find out why people stopped getting into the "Good Place" after they died. Life used to be simple before: if you bought your wife a flower, it was a straightforward good deed. Now every action is tainted, because the CEO of the flower company employs child labor, cheats on his wife, and murders bees with pesticides. Ah, and he is an nazi.
No, that’s not how it is at all. Nobody is obligated to give a damn. Not fighting isn’t the same as supporting, and that’s the biggest lie that has thoroughly fucked this world. It’s the exact opposite: only not giving a shit can still save it.
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HN itself has quite a lot of "nazi bullshit." You don't usually , regularly see people being virulent about it but people frequently endorse policies that would absolutely have fit cleanly into the historical nazi party's platform. Things like race science and eliminationist policies against the homeless, anti-immigration stances, homo- and transphobia are particularly popular. People here are normally "polite" about…
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Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism.
> Sure but 'not giving a shit' means accepting Nazism. This is some "critical theory" nonsense. The real world isn't divided into two camps, "those actively for" and "those actively against". You can, and should, just go about your life. You'll live a happier, more mentally-healthy life by just ignoring the noise and not getting pulled into some sort of "if you're not with us, you're against us" thing. Gleam is a lan…
True, but the message on the website starts with "As a community...", and speaks to participation in the Gleam community, not the usage of Gleam as a language. And participation within a community _can_ be prevented by its stewards.