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Re: The importance of offtopic

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Post by dnissley »

ghaff wrote: post #50
davidw wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's one of the reason I prefer fully online shops, they'll usually have made peace with it and structured themselves in saner ways. There's also a 'tipping point'. If you have 9 out of 10 people in the office, they're just going to be human and chat about stuff in the office and meet in person and the 1 person not there is best viewed as someone to farm piece work out to rather than part of the team. Which is fi…

Yeah, I'm not sure 100% remote all the time is ideal but if you're the 1 in 10 person who is remote, that's probably not a good space to be in.

So long as the in office folks are split between different offices in groupings of 1-2 you're fine

Re: The importance of offtopic

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Post by Havoc »

Mostly good but the webcam part is way off the mark. Humans are hardwired to look at faces and interpret micro expressions to interpret situations. Author may laugh in text emojis only but not everyone does

That said enforced webcam on is obnoxious too. Best orgs in my experience are the middle ground places - lightly encouraged - so that one can decide meeting by meeting

Re: The importance of offtopic

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Post by moomin »

BrenBarn wrote: post #16

This is interesting because there can be a fine line between camaraderie and insularism. A feel-good atmosphere among workers is good, but if it doesn't include everyone, it can lead to favoritism towards those in the group relative to those outside, and that's not good. This can be especially important when people who aren't part of the org at all come into the equation (e.g., leading to the classic experience where…

A very common specialisation of this is drinking culture. Some guys just plain don't drink and definitely don't drink as much as the drinking culture would require, some women bluntly don't feel safe around a bunch of guys getting drunk. Managers who drink can lead to this weird thing where going out drinking feels mandatory. Shout out to my last manager who definitely did drink and didn't have a drinking culture.

Re: The importance of offtopic

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Post by bowsamic »

anal_reactor wrote: post #60
bowsamic wrote: post #58

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Okay well I live in capitalist times and not in a small village. I don't really care about the reason. I don't want to make friends at work

If you paid attention to what I wrote you'd see a clear reason why having friends at work benefits you in capitalist globalist times, but I guess you're just antisocial, and you're trying to logic your way into that preference, instead of admitting that it's just a preference.

False + projection

Re: The importance of offtopic

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Post by ghaff »

dnissley wrote: post #61
ghaff wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm not sure 100% remote all the time is ideal but if you're the 1 in 10 person who is remote, that's probably not a good space to be in.

So long as the in office folks are split between different offices in groupings of 1-2 you're fine

Then everyone is effectively remote which doesn't invalidate the point.

Re: The importance of offtopic

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Post by jama211 »

pacifika wrote: post #43
jama211 wrote: post #42

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Now just tell me why my company only demands the latter, despite the fact that I update my tickets the same way

Ask internally

What would be the point when they don’t know the answer themselves? The real answer is likely that they have to schedule meetings to make it look like they’re doing something as project managers, and to feel emotionally “in control” of the projects. But that truth is likely hidden from themselves via a layer of delusion.
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