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Apple At Its Worst: It's Time to Stop Censoring Apps

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Re: Apple At Its Worst: It's Time to Stop Censoring Apps

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"not letting you own the device they sold you" This is blatantly false and I'm getting sick of it. You own the device. For various reasons Apple designed the device to only work with one store. That isn't secret info not available to the buyer.

It isn't yours if you don't control it. Period. You can use it only by the grace of Apple. If Apple decides you shouldn't use it anymore, it's bricked. If Apple goes out of business, your iphone is worthless. That isn't ownership. Not in my book, at least. Maybe your definition is different.

"You can use it only by the grace of Apple. If Apple decides you shouldn't use it anymore, it's bricked."

If Apple bricked my phone tomorrow I would return it for nothing less then a full refund. So yeah, you're just making things up.

"If Apple goes out of business, your iphone is worthless."

Why does my iphone stop working if Apple goes out of business? This is just silliness.

"Maybe your definition is different."

My definition is the same as the lay definition. There are radios you can buy that only tune into the NOAA Weather stations. Conversely most radios aren't able to pick up these as they are broadcast outside the normal AM/FM bands. However no one claims they don't own their radio because they can't tune into stations on a different part of the band and no one claims they don't own their weather radio because they can't tune into commercial stations. Instead people realize that when they bought a weather radio which only plays one station that was part of the purchase decision. Anyone claiming non-ownership in this context is just flat out wrong.

Re: Apple At Its Worst: It's Time to Stop Censoring Apps

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People that keep writing articles like this should not buy Apple. Apple is going to do what they're going to do. Either accept it or buy Android. Those are your options. But let's be serious, Apple risks "consumer trust"? Not in any way that is likely to be measurable.

There's another option, which is to keep writing articles like these. By convincing many more people that the "curated walled garden" Apple has built is shiny, clean, and lifeless, they'll have even more of an impact. Maybe Apple will respond to this pressure and fix the problem. Quality control is great - but a sterile Disney channel experience is not what a lot of people want.

Re: Apple At Its Worst: It's Time to Stop Censoring Apps

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Abuse? I think you may be stretching there… A closer analogy is we do allow private property owners to decide what signs and other publicly visible items may be present on their property. Property owners are allowed to dictate who's allowed on premises. We also allow private organizations to decide who may join their organization. Stores are allowed to decide what products they retail. Private media are allowed to de…

Physical abuse isn't the only kind... ok let's use a real legal concept: After an item has been sold, the former owner has no say in how the item is used by its new owner. But Apple locks iPhones to only install software from their app store, and then censors the app store. This effectively limits what users can do with their devices even though Apple no longer owns them. Apple can't put legal restrictions on users (…

The user is still not being abused. You may feel Apple is abusing their power, but they're not abusing the user.

Were this something happening against users' will the, yes, I might concede it's abuse. It's not; users love the app store and a large part of that reason is because the content is curated. It's Apple's store (not a public marketplace) and they know what they purchase isn't likely to be offensive and is likely to work as advertised. You may not like the App Store, but Apple is definitely not abusing users.

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