Should I read this report?
I dunno, I imagine we already know the gist of the claims.
UN report finds UN reports are not widely read
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#62beyond the title, what’s this UN report about?
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#63This is an institutional reflection of the individual tendency to talk about problems rather than solving them. Or, an important variant, where the urge to help those in need is expressed as directing them to "appropriate resources", which are also services that direct those seeking help to other appropriate resources, ad infinitum. The net result is a whole army of people who's expressed goal is to help people but w…
There are a lot of other contributing factors too. If a potential reader pre-assumes bias from the report, they may just choose not to invest the time. It's the same way bad faith political discussions play out with people making assumptions about the stance of a person voting the opposite way.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think they mean that citizens don't read the reports (which is to be expected) but politicians?
Politicians don't even read the bills they sign.
Depends on the country. In many (vast majority of?) countries bills are individually passed, i.e. a few pages of text at a time. I imagine in those countries, a substantial fraction of the members in the assembly do read the bill before voting, even if they vote according to the party line.
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#66Honestly not sure why this is any sort of surprise. I very occasionally read UN reports for work. I very frequently see journalists covering those reports using the press release, clearly not having read anything else. And then I see low quality media reporting on the topic clearly having read only the third party reports. When journalists - whose job it is - don’t read them, it’s expecting a lot for anyone outside o…
Yellow Journalism: Reading a tweet.
Journalism: Reading the press release.
Investigative Journalism: Reading the report.
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#67tbh this is to be expected? I don't read UN reports, I expect reporters to read them and distill the information. I don't read research papers, I expect journalists to read them and present something reasonable to a layman. I don't read the minutae of the laws being passed, I expect lawyers and politicians to debate the finer points. So perhaps my expectations are not being met? Unfortunately I don't have time to pay…
Similarly, even research papers are not downloaded that many times. Most are produced to be potentially read by the few hundred, at most few thousand people in specific subfield. In the end, depending on the quality of the paper, probably only zero to few hundred people end up reading a particular paper.
I see no problem with this. When I write an email, typically I expect exactly one person to read it.
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#68Perfect Onion headline
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
When they don't release the data and/or methodolgy, you have to treat the result the same: garbage. They could be completely making up data or demonstrating the gold standard example of pristine data collection and brilliant analysis but we'd never know.. and for some reason, they don't want to tell us.
> for some reason, they don't want to tell us It should be pretty clear why they don't want to show and tell.
I'm quite confident on why they don't want to share their data and/or methodology but there could be legitimate reasons and I want to be open to those.
Regardless, without that information, we can only evaluate them based on how rigorus they've been in the past:
Are the researchers and organizations involved known for effective data collection and solid analysis?
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#70Did they also find out WHY ?