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Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Maybe one wants a mini heat pump between the CPU and the coffee. 50º C is plenty for a heat pump to very efficiently push the temperature on the other side to 98º C or so

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

Linus (tech talks) uses it to heat his pool.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one wants a mini heat pump between the CPU and the coffee. 50º C is plenty for a heat pump to very efficiently push the temperature on the other side to 98º C or so

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

Two issues I see here would be that a) the demand and production of how water and compute power might not align and b) the amount of water heated this way would probably not be nearly enough for most people.

What is probably more feasible is to save on heating costs by heating your apartment partially with your computer.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Why not rig it the other way: pump water past the CPU, then through your coffee grounds? It probably wouldn't be great for your CPU, because the temperature required to properly brew coffee is hotter than you really want for your CPU. But maybe get the water to 80C, and a secondary heater after that.

Let's do cold brew then...

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one wants a mini heat pump between the CPU and the coffee. 50º C is plenty for a heat pump to very efficiently push the temperature on the other side to 98º C or so

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

The main problems I see are that we don't clean the insides of computer parts and we can drink water with way more calcium in it than is good for high temperature water heaters. Cooling water needs to be treated to not grow algae and bacteria in it, and a lot of times that renders it poisonous to drink. Conversely, drinking water has a lot of minerals still in it and those minerals will deposit and form scale on the insides of your heat transfer surfaces, which will severely impact performance over time. It may not even take that long depending on how hot the surface is and how hard your water is.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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I'm not expert in CPU water cooling but I'd guess the CPU would have to be way over 100C in order to get the water to 80C quickly.

Add a heat exchanger.

Not sure if this is what you mean but an actual heat pump with a compressor could handle this— after all, an air conditioner cools your house to 23C by dumping the waste heat to an environment that can be 40C or more.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

Linus (tech talks) uses it to heat his pool.

I remember in a video, Linus measured that the ground absorbs all the heat before it could even reaching the pool.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Linus (tech talks) uses it to heat his pool.

I remember in a video, Linus measured that the ground absorbs all the heat before it could even reaching the pool.

His pipes have too much or not enough insulation then.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one wants a mini heat pump between the CPU and the coffee. 50º C is plenty for a heat pump to very efficiently push the temperature on the other side to 98º C or so

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

I’ve long been annoyed in the summer every time I turn on a heat generating appliance (stove, dryer, on-demand hot water) and then think about all the waste heat my air conditioner dumped out the side of the house in the last X hours. It would be amazing to somehow store that heat in a reservoir where it could be later used.

I doubt the extra piping and infrastructure is anywhere near worth it, but I sometimes fantasize about an experimental building that was designed from the get-go with a single integrated heat loop that all the major appliances were plugged into, and how that might look. Seems like the sort of thing that could be tried in a much more confined space such as for an off-grid RV.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one wants a mini heat pump between the CPU and the coffee. 50º C is plenty for a heat pump to very efficiently push the temperature on the other side to 98º C or so

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

I have used a mini home-datacenter to heat my house in winter (very effectively - I used a fan to direct the heat towards the intake for the AC system and ran the AC fan). But I decided against the HW heater version of it from a cost recovery perspective - we just don't use that much hot water and we had a then-new high efficiency gas hot water heater.

However, there's a fairly straightforward way to get halfway there: You can run a standard heat pump hot water heater and put the computers in the same room with it. The computers will heat the air, the heat pump hot water heater will cool the air. Won't be as efficient as a closed loop system directly connecting the computers to the HW heater but you also won't need to worry about whether the heat production and consumption are balanced.

Re: Coffeematic PC – A coffee maker computer that pumps hot coffee to the CPU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.

The main problems I see are that we don't clean the insides of computer parts and we can drink water with way more calcium in it than is good for high temperature water heaters. Cooling water needs to be treated to not grow algae and bacteria in it, and a lot of times that renders it poisonous to drink. Conversely, drinking water has a lot of minerals still in it and those minerals will deposit and form scale on the…

I assume whatever fluids are used for heat transfer would circulate in completely separate circuits from the water used or consumed by humans.
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