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Online Safety Act: What went wrong?

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I didn't say that at all. You've totally the legal right to use knives in a dangerous way in your home.

It's completely compatible with age restrictions on long pointed blades, though, isn't it?

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Then what's the proper tool for cutting fruit or veg? I can't think of one.

I have a small-ish flat-cut paring knife that has a non-pointed blade. It is very sharp, and even the squared off end is enough to pierce a tomato, say.

I can't think of any application where the point of the knive is particularly essential for fruit or veg, and I can think of several veg where using the point of a tool is actually quite likely to cause an accident. Sweet potato being one of them.

There is one true application: deboning or filleting. But most people simply don't do this in a kitchen anyway, because they are buying deboned and filleted meat.

I don't see a particular problem with asking people who do want to cook to that level to prove they are adults before buying knives that have such obvious dual use as a weapon. Because you're asking people who already know they should be responsible with knives (and not for example use kitchen knives to get into plastic packaging, like an idiot).

You really don't need the point of a kitchen knife all that much in a kitchen, and the fact that the counterexamples raised are misuse (stabbing into packaging etc.) is pretty illustrative.

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The whole country could sign that petition and it will be ignored. There is no legal/political solution to this. The sooner people accept that the better.

Nonsense. Promoting the petition and keeping talking about the law is one of the most effective things that can be done to make life uncomfortable for the politicians who are responsible for this mess. More pressure is needed and politicians will have to face journalists asking unpleasant questions when people continue to complain.

> Nonsense. Promoting the petition and keeping talking about the law is one of the most effective things that can be done to make life uncomfortable for the politicians who are responsible for this mess.

They frequently ignore these petitions, especially when it comes to privacy, freedom of speech, surveillance etc.

When you do get a response back from these petitions, they are frequently either don't address the issue properly or you get some gaslighting response back.

My pessimism has be undefeated thus far.

> More pressure is needed and politicians will have to face journalists asking unpleasant questions when people continue to complain.

I am sorry this is utterly naive. Have you've seen the responses from Politicians so far? They basically call anyone that opposes them a paedophile.

I wouldn't put any faith in the journalists either. Most either work for the state directly or they have corporate masters.

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This is my main frustration. Every teenager who wants to get porn will get porn regardless. VPN companies saw the writing on the wall years ago, and have been paying any YouTuber that will accept a sponsorship to shill for them. I think the Online Safety Act is just setting a precedent that will be used further down the line to ban personal VPN usage. "Children are using encrypted VPN tunnels to see porn online! Crim…

China has been trying for decades to ban VPNs and they have failed. It's just an infinite cat and mouse game. There's no reason to think that the UK could succeed where China has failed.

Yes, I agree with you. But the average person would no longer use a VPN if VPNs were outlawed. The people who are clever enough to evade detection like you and I are a tiny percentage of the population, and we don't really matter.

People like you and I don't truly matter in the grand scheme of things, because if the government ban VPNs, we will use i2p or TOR, or Hyphanet/freenet.

Surveillance states care about numbers. The more people who lose VPN access, the better (from their POV).

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> In reality, this wouldn’t happen, because, generally, people understand that stabbings are a cultural issue, rather than a technical one Many UK MPs don't understand this. I've heard of MPs making (moronic) suggestions such as selling kitchen knives without the point on it. I've literally seen this advertised as a solution on the news. For whatever reason they don't seem to understand that literally anyone can make…

"We believe that paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland, and through this they can control keyboards." – Syd Rapson MP in 2001.

But really, with 650 MPs there's bound to be a few that are a bit silly at least some of the time. You can hear some wild takes at the local pub too (or nextdoor), but that doesn't mean everyone in your area is a moron.

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Then what's the proper tool for cutting fruit or veg? I can't think of one.

Seriously? A "vegetable knife". e.g. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genware-NEV-K-V4R-Vegetable-Knife-R...

You could use this, yes. And buy it, as an adult. I have not suggested you could not. (I just don't think the point is necessary, myself, and I am glad of options without it)

But you quite possibly cannot buy it on Amazon or in any UK shop already without proving you are an adult if your age is in doubt. Do you have a problem with their terms on that page?

"Age Verification Required on Delivery: This product is not for sale to people under the age of 18. To confirm the recipient is over 18 years, valid photographic ID with a date of birth may be required upon delivery. The driver will input your year of birth into their device and may then require an ID check to complete the age verification process. The driver will not be able to access your information once the delivery is complete."

(The "may" here is crucial. I've never been asked to prove I am an adult this way either, because I look like one)

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