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Re: Stargate Norway

#61

I assume many who work at OpenAI have seen Pantheon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheon_(TV_series)

I assume people at OpenAI take inspiration from dystopian SciFi (like 'Her')

This isn't limited to OpenAI, Silicon Valley as a whole behaves like that (see Zuck wanting to make the metaverse a reality)

Re: Stargate Norway

#62

Have we as a species considered that the very last thing we need given our climate crisis and already near-apocalyptic state (fires, floods, storms - it's biblical!), is some risky tech bro vanity project gamble eating up the rest of our resources and accelerating the death of our species? That maybe the attempt of capital to finally replace pesky labor with cheap machines isn't worth risking it all? No? Guess it's t…

> That maybe the attempt of capital to finally replace pesky labor with cheap machines isn't worth risking it all?

Who's gonna purchase the goods if noone gets a salary? That will work out like the french revolution.

Re: Stargate Norway

#63
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was my first thought as well. Sounds like a cool name for a black site.

Huh. I guess I'm old now, but my first thought was obviously the interstellar transportation device with a big honkin' rotary dial to select your destination. ᐰ

A serpent guard, a Horus guard and a Setesh guard meet on a neutral planet.

It is a tense moment.

The serpent guard's eyes glow.

The Horus guard's beak glistens.

The Setesh guard's nose drips.

Re: Stargate Norway

#65

North Norwegians will finally experience higher electricity prices like us in the south experience since a few years.

On the plus side, a ton of electricity generation capacity is being built for AI datacenters. If this is a bubble and it pops, electricity prices are going to fall faster than you've ever seen before.

No, the infrastructure cost would have been paid already and will be recouped on the remaining consumers.

Re: Stargate Norway

#66

North Norwegians will finally experience higher electricity prices like us in the south experience since a few years.

On the plus side, a ton of electricity generation capacity is being built for AI datacenters. If this is a bubble and it pops, electricity prices are going to fall faster than you've ever seen before.

Norway is currently building very little new power generation at all, unfortunately. NIMBYism is blocking onshore wind, ecological concerns blocking hydro. This has already started hurting, and is projected to get worse. Before taking any AI datacenters into account.

Re: Stargate Norway

#67
post #10

I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?

Northern Norway has lot of cheap and stable hydro capacity. The prices there for baseload power are cheap. Interesting part of that market is that they lack internal north-south transfer capacity. So much that Finland which has relatively more north-south capacity has cheaper electricity at same latitude than in Norway...

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#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the plus side, a ton of electricity generation capacity is being built for AI datacenters. If this is a bubble and it pops, electricity prices are going to fall faster than you've ever seen before.

Even if it pops, I think the cat is already out of the bag. About LLMs: Maybe there won't be much training going around as model we might starting to hit diminishing returns with the current model architectures/approaches, but I believe inference is here to stay. Scaffolding code, trivial functions, ... are things that LLMs excel at doing and once you get used to offload those to the LLM it is really hard to get back…

> scaffolding code, trivial functions, ... are things that LLMs excel at doing and once you get used to offload those to the LLM it is really hard to get back to doing it manually.

True, but local models cover that use-case very well already and consume little power doing so.

Re: Stargate Norway

#69
post #6

So another major bidder for electricity in my area comes online. Not looking forward to the invoices next winter…

I just got up here and love that my electricity costs 1/10th what it did in the states.

Re: Stargate Norway

#70
"Stargate" in the name really sounds like OpenAI has lost touch with reality.

(Didn't they at some point also say they wanted to build their own semiconductor fabs? That went in the same direction).

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