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Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by cjbgkagh »

lamp_book wrote: post #58
lotsofpulp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High calorie sweeteners have deleterious population-level effects. Is there any evidence that modern low calorie sweeteners have deleterious population-level effects, and what are they compared to high calorie sweeteners?

I wonder if any Romans evidence had any evidence of population-level delirium from lead consumption...

Lower intelligence would likely surface as hedonistic behavior which is probably hard to distinguish from decadence. Decadence and hedonism were constantly being complained about long before the eventual fall.

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by morkalork »

giantg2 wrote: post #28
christophilus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You shouldn’t use mouthwash at all ever. It’s a nuke to the microbes in your mouth. There was a long, rambling discussion with a functional dentist on the Primal Podcast[0] that goes into this. [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNrm-9sp-RQ

There are situations where mouthwashes are beneficial, such as with injuries... Just not the stuff you buy at the store. The best mouthwash for those situations is just warm salty water.

I'll just add that chlorohexadine mouthwash is probably the most vile thing I've ever put in my mouth; like gargling essence of hospital.

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by sleepyguy »

ulf-77723 wrote: post #32

Some time ago I read the book Complete Guide to Sports Nutrition by Anita Bean, which does also emphasize on not using antibacterial mouthwash since it removes the beneficial bacteria in the mouth which convert nitrate to nitrite. I‘m drinking beetroot juice since 3 years now and asked myself if beetroot capsules might be an alternative.

Have you considered L-Citrulline as an alternative to Beet Root? There is a great YouTube video on DAOC with Dr Bryant. You might enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/zECoaEZRRFU?si=IRpX9Tn6tYOH_LTs

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by evertedsphere »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #61
lamp_book wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if any Romans evidence had any evidence of population-level delirium from lead consumption...

Lower intelligence would likely surface as hedonistic behavior which is probably hard to distinguish from decadence. Decadence and hedonism were constantly being complained about long before the eventual fall.

> Lower intelligence would likely surface as hedonistic behavior why do you think so

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by declan_roberts »

papercrane wrote: post #8
bognition wrote: post #3

Back in school I was often told the lead pipes in Roman aqueducts likely played a key role in the fall of Roman. We know lead is a poison with negative long term effects on cognition. The aqueducts were also responsible for Romes ability to proliferate and grow. Lead was both a blessing and a curse. I wonder what future generations will say about our highly enriched and processed diets. Calories have never been cheap…

The lead pipes theory is mostly just pop-science. Romans were likely getting more lead exposure from using lead cooking vessels and utensils.

Not to mention the fact that their pipes immediately become mineralized, and very little lead leeches in cold water.

Headline science has a way of sticking around for a long time.

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by _the_inflator »

Beetroot juice is legal “doping”.

Of course nothing illegal, only natural, a disadvantage if you don’t utilize it for you.

There are beetroot parties at almost any Triathlon event for the runners, apnea divers also get a huge natural and healthy boost.

I use it for long runs I don’t really feel the difference every time, but stats and data speak their own language.

Give it a try, timing is a bit tricky depending on your feast.

But caution: don’t overdo it due to oxalate as potential risk.

And mustn’t be the juice, the beetroot itself already does the job.

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by pinkmuffinere »

_the_inflator wrote: post #66

Beetroot juice is legal “doping”. Of course nothing illegal, only natural, a disadvantage if you don’t utilize it for you. There are beetroot parties at almost any Triathlon event for the runners, apnea divers also get a huge natural and healthy boost. I use it for long runs I don’t really feel the difference every time, but stats and data speak their own language. Give it a try, timing is a bit tricky depending on y…

Do we know the mechanism by which this works? Is it just anecdotal, or is this studied at a population/statistical level?

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Post by kmeisthax »

bognition wrote: post #3

Back in school I was often told the lead pipes in Roman aqueducts likely played a key role in the fall of Roman. We know lead is a poison with negative long term effects on cognition. The aqueducts were also responsible for Romes ability to proliferate and grow. Lead was both a blessing and a curse. I wonder what future generations will say about our highly enriched and processed diets. Calories have never been cheap…

The Roman Empire did not fall because of lead pipe. It fell because the empire's elites ran out of territory to conquer and turned against one another.

Also, the Roman Empire didn't fall, either. It split in two. The Western half continued splitting into a bunch of competing kingdoms while the Eastern half slowly shrank over about a thousand years. It eventually wound up being rolled into the Ottoman Empire, which lasted until WWI.

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by cjbgkagh »

evertedsphere wrote: post #64
cjbgkagh wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lower intelligence would likely surface as hedonistic behavior which is probably hard to distinguish from decadence. Decadence and hedonism were constantly being complained about long before the eventual fall.

> Lower intelligence would likely surface as hedonistic behavior why do you think so

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