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Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".

Don't be confused! That's not how they made the decision; it's how they're selling it.

So how did they decide?

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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For people wanting to include URL references in things like books, what’s the right approach to take today? I’m genuinely asking. It seems like its hard to trust that any service will remaining running for decades

https://perma.cc/ It is built for the task, and assuming worse case scenario of sunset, it would be ingested into the Wayback Machine. Note that both the Internet Archive and Cloudflare are supporting partners (bottom of page). ( https://doi.org/ is also an option, but not as accessible to a casual user; the DOI Foundation pointed me to https://www.crossref.org/ for adhoc DOI registration, although I have not had tim…

perma.cc is an interesting project, thanks for sharing.

other readers may be specifically interested in their contingency plan

https://perma.cc/contingency-plan

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be confused! That's not how they made the decision; it's how they're selling it.

So how did they decide?

I expect cost on a budget sheet, then an analysis was done about the impact of shutting it down

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".

What fraction of indexed Google sites, Youtube videos, or Google Photos were retrieved in the last month? Think of the cost savings!

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.

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Those numbers make it seem fairly trivial. You have a dozen bytes referencing a few hundred bytes, for a service that is not latency sensitive.

This sounds like a good project for an intern, with server costs that might be able to exceed a hundred dollars per month!

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Cloudflare offered to keep it running and were turned away: https://x.com/elithrar/status/1948451254780526609 Remember this next time you are thinking of depending upon a Google service. They could have kept this going easily but are intentionally breaking it.

Google killing their domains service was the last straw for me. I started moving all of my stuff off of Google since then.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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A comment said they stopped making new links and announced back in 2018 it would be going away. I'm not a google fanboi and the google graveyard is a well known thing, but this has been 6+ years coming.

For one, not enough people seem to be aware of it. They don't seem to have given that announcement the importance and effort it deserved. Secondly, I can't say that they have a good migration plan when shutting down their services. People scrambling like this to backup the data is rather common these days. And finally, this isn't a service that can be so easily replaced. Even if people knew that it was going away, there would be short-links that they don't remember, but are important nevertheless. Somebody gave an example above - citations in research papers. There isn't much thought given to the consequences when decisions like this are taken.

Granted that it was a free service and Google is under no obligation to keep it going. But if they were going to be so casual about it, they shouldn't have offered it in the first place. Or perhaps, people should take that lesson instead and spare themselves the pain.

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