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UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

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Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

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Diff with Rogers is that they took out their entire network: cellular, home/biz internet, home phone, corporate circuits (including MPLS links), most cable TV, a bunch of their broadcast radio (AM/FM) network just dead dead dead. Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because…

> their phone was on roaming with Rogers and therefore dead I thought your phone uses all available networks (ie the strongest one) while roaming. Is that not the case?

When roaming, your home network is needed for routing incoming calls to you, and handling authenticating your device to the visited network.

Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

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post #47

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I do think there's a better than average chance that WW3 starts not with an open nuclear exchange as our parents imagined, but instead with a substantial cyberattack which shuts down power, water treatment, communications, hospitals, public transportation, etc. This might even be deniable / grey zone for a few hours or days while the belligerent parties use the chaos to accomplish some Blitzkrieg style attacks.

If that were possible, then why didn't Russia, which might have the most experienced pool of cyber-attack skills in the world, do it to Ukraine?

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Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

#65

It's just inbound calls to EE numbers (so if you've ported in you're not affected)

Even with a ported number, inbound call routing still heavily relies on the "number range" owner to direct the incoming call to the correct network.

If the original number range owner has their subscriber database go down, they can't do the lookup for the network to direct the incoming call towards, so it can cause disruption. The same is true if the incoming signalling endpoints are unavailable, as the incoming call requests won't be responded to.

Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

#66
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BT, EE: Yes. Three, Vodafone: No. O2: Unknown. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnvmvqrnq7go > A spokesperson from BT, which owns EE, apologised and said the firm was "currently addressing an issue impacting our services". > Vodafone and Three have confirmed to the BBC they do not have network issues.

I'm on Vodafone, I can confirm they're okay.

Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

#67

Reminds me of recent outages in Russia due to buggy rollouts of Great Russian Firewall aka Sovereign Internet. Were there any state-level infrastructure updates planned recently?

We also have mobile internet disabled/throttled sometimes when there are drone attacks or large international forums. Weak-minded people with Internet dependency like to complain about this online as if their online game is more important than an international forum.

Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Diff with Rogers is that they took out their entire network: cellular, home/biz internet, home phone, corporate circuits (including MPLS links), most cable TV, a bunch of their broadcast radio (AM/FM) network just dead dead dead. Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because…

In a financial company I worked at we would do some of the biggest, riskiest changes at 5pm on a Friday (or Saturday evening if we were worried about impacting international trades). The logic being that we would have the most time to fix things before markets open monday.

Yes. It is either Friday evening or Sunday in finance.
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