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I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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Why? Seems like a good idea, relying on the LLM to write for you won’t develop your skills, but using it as an editor is a good middle ground. Also there’s no shame in saying an LLM is “better” than you at a task.

Art is fundamentally a human activity. No amount of artistic work can be delegated to a machine, or else the art is dehumanised.

This seems like it would ban drawing tablets, musical instruments, and a lot of other things which seem silly to ban.

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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What about grammar and spelling corrections?

Not the author, but another author here and...

Well, it has a problem with my use of the Oxford comma, for one. Because a huge amount of the corpus is American English, and mine ain't. So it fails on grammar repeatedly.

And if you introduce any words of your own, it will sometimes randomly correct them to something else, and randomly correct other words to the made up ones. And it can't always tell when it's made such a change. And sometimes it does that even if you're just mixing existing languages like French or English. So you can make it useless for spellcheck by touching more than one language.

I do keep trying, despite the fact my stuff has been stolen and is in the training data, because of all the proselytising, but right now... No AI is useful for my writing. Not even just for grammar and spelling.

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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Pretty similar view than others have expressed in veiks of "LLMs can be good, just not at my [area of expertise]".

I'm pretty sure they were generally (if not completely) correct when they said that.

It's either the tech is advancing so quickly that many people can't keep up, or simply the cost of adapting outweighs the potential profit from their remaining careers, even when taking the new tech into account.

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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You sound bitter. Did you try using more AI for the bug fixing? It gets better and better.

Cognitive load are not related to the difficulty of a task. It’s about how much mental energy is spent monitoring it. To reduce cognitive load, you either boost confidence or avoid caring. You can’t have confidence in AI output and most people proposing it looks like they’re preaching to not care about quality (because quantity yay).

But quality is going up a lot. Granted, it's not up to human levels yet, but it is going up fast. Also we will see more complex quality control in AI output, tailored to specific use cases and sold at a premium. Right now these don't exist and if they existed it would be too expensive to run 100x requests for the same amount of output. So humans are stuck in quality control, for now.

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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You know that teammate that makes more work for everyone else on the team because they do what they are asked to do but in the most buggy and incomprehensible way, that when you finally get them to move on to another team and you realize how much time you spent corralling them and fixing their subtle bugs and now when they are gone work doesn't seem like so much of a chore. That's AI.

> You know that teammate now imagine he can be scaled indefinitely you thought software was bad today? imagine Microsoft Teams in 5 years time

I only need to look at the past 5 years of Windows

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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You say that as if it's a justification, not an observation. For one, the world doesn't need to be that way, I.e. We don't need to "leave behind" anyone who doesn't immediately adopt every single piece of new technology. That's simple callousness and doesn't need to be ruthlessly obeyed. And for two, it's provably false. What is "the future?" VR? The metaverse? Blockchain? NFTs? Hydrogen cells? Driverless cars? There…

Dan, Do you have kids? Outside of discipline, and even there, I want to have a positive relationship with my sons. My oldest knows that I am not a writer, there are a ton areas that I can give legit good advice. I can actually have a fun conversation about his stories, but I have no qualifications to tell him what he might want to change. I can say what I like but my likes/dislikes are not what an editor does. I actu…

> But I never want me to be a reason he backs away from something because my feedback was wrong.

Do you want an LLM to be the reason? You can explain that your Feedback is opinionated or biased. And you know him better than any machine ever will

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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My writing style is pretty labor intensive [0]. I go through a lot of drafts and read things out loud to make sure they work well etc. And I tend to have a high standard for making sure I source things. I personally think an LLM could help with some of this, and this is something I've been thinking about the past few days. But I'd have to build a pipeline and figure out a way to make it amplify what I like about my v…

Michelangelo worked alone on the David for more than two years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)#Process Maybe later he got lazier. I haven't really heard of famous authors using assistants for drafts instead of research (I don't mean commercial authors like Stephen King). Even research many authors simply could not afford.

James Patterson comes to mind. He simply writes detailed outlines for the plots of his novels and has other authors write them for him. The books are then published under his name, which is more like a brand at that point.

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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You know that teammate that makes more work for everyone else on the team because they do what they are asked to do but in the most buggy and incomprehensible way, that when you finally get them to move on to another team and you realize how much time you spent corralling them and fixing their subtle bugs and now when they are gone work doesn't seem like so much of a chore. That's AI.

smart people are reading comments like and going “I am glad I am in the same market as people making such comments” :)

Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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Have you looked for: - Writing groups. They often have sessions that provide feedback and also help writers find/build a sense of community. Your son would also get to listen to other writers talk about their work, problems they’ve run into and overcome, and other aspects of their craft. - School (sometimes library) writing workshops. This helps students develop bonds with their peers and helps both students: the one…

Good feedback, we live a somewhat unusual lifestyle. We are digital nomads that live on a sailboat. I think some of that is possible and I will recommend he look for some online writing groups but the places we generally sail to are countries where schools/libraries aren’t going to have those types of things. It is challenge enough flying him back to the US to take AP exams

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Re: I avoid using LLMs as a publisher and writer

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I am a book publisher & I love technology. It can empower people. I have been using LLM chatbots since they became widely available. I regularly test machine translation at our publishing house in collaboration with our translators. I have just completed two courses in artificial intelligence and machine learning at my alma mater, Masaryk University, and I am training my own experimental models (for predicting bestse…

I know a publisher who translates books (English to Korean). He works alone these days. Using GPT, he can produce a decent-quality first draft within a day or two. His later steps are also vastly accelerated because GPT reliably catches typos and grammar errors. It doesn't take more than a month to translate and print a book from scratch. Marvelous.

But I still don't like that the same model struggles w/ my projects...

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