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Re: YouTube No Translation

#61
That looks very useful, thanks!

I _love_ when youtube auto-translates english titles to my native language and then asks me if I want to translate the rare comments in my native language to english.

It seem they just don't contemplate people speaking two or more languages, *even though the setting in the google account is there*.

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#62

Anybody knows the business reason for this feature to exist? most people here and in other places are incredibly frustrated with auto-translate and the inability to turn it off. I include myself in that bunch. There are two potential reasons in my mind: - Youtube folks A/B tested it and it got more engagement - n/ views, time viewed per video, etc. (but were they tracking the right metrics? ie did they capture user f…

Most Americans speak one language. Therefore American product designers think everyone speaks one language and only ever wants to hear everything in their one language... I agree, it's annoying. I speak multiple languages and like to consume the original whenever possible.

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#63

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Surprisingly, it isn't. You can change the language in your google account and it will take that into account for what to translate and into what language, but you can't turn it off completely. I don't know who thought this was a good user experience, because it's one of the most frustrating features I've ever had to deal with. I'm german, but almost all of the things I watch are in english. So usually I will just ig…

> thought-process that lead to this decision highly likely to be monolingual people as they cannot understand you would like movies to be in any other language than your mother tongue.

Moreover I could still prefer movies in my native language *but properly dubbed by some voice actors*, not by some random AI that's going to mess up all the context.

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The fact that this is needed and not configurable is so frustrating. I'm almost certain nobody even asked for this. What a great way to stop people ever needing to learn another language. God forbid people use their brains for anything that 30 second shorts.

After 25 you can’t really learn new languages without considerable investment and effort. Translating is the only option for the vast majority of people.

Not true at all. I've learned one language after I hit 39 and started leaning another when I hit 45, 7 months in learning it ~15 min a day and I'm bordering B1 level.

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> thought-process that lead to this decision highly likely to be monolingual people as they cannot understand you would like movies to be in any other language than your mother tongue.

> highly likely to be monolingual people Which is insane to me. Silicon Valley is filled to the brim with multi-lingual people. And yet so many decisions that are coming out have no understanding of languages

Even for the monolingual Google employees it's not uncommon for them to travel to other locales, even as part of their job, so they would be on the receiving end of this "experience" too. We've had 2 decades of experience with this being an issue. One would think that they'd incorporate this "edge case" into their design process matrix by now.

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#66
One thing this kind of thing severely hurts is a lot of devices, services are affected by local laws, units, concepts, brands sometimes severely altering their function.

- Searching for a guide on say a car infotainment system would be totally different here from someone explaining in the USA or germany. Now I see a ton of titles in my language, only to find out it's information is completely useless to me because a menu, button or whatever doesen't even exist.

- Recommendations on cooking advice become almost worthless since a grading system for flours is arcane, brands I've never heard of, compounded by some imperial units in the mix. A recipe turns into a research project

- when searching for non-native content I may avoid content in my language, since I know the subject is definitely not relevant anywhere near me, so perfectly valid content will be missed

Worse yet, sometimes physical products claiming to have localized manual will instead have used some very inferior version to google translate and give dangerous advice about safe handling of the device.

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I'm in France, but my Google, browsers and devices languages are English. So Youtube randomly auto-dubs (and auto-translates the title of) some French videos into English, and some English videos into French. But they're never the same videos depending on the devices or the browsers. However, the automatic subtitles during the preview remain in the original langage.

I'm in the same boat (living in France, browser and google account configured to use English) and I've never noticed this. Now I'm not a hardcore Youtube user, but whenever I browse it, French-titled videos are in French, and the same for English. I'm mostly using Firefox on Linux, and occasionally Edge on Windows.

Do note that when rolling out features like these, they geoblock them, even on a per run basis, so it might be happening a lot throughout the world but it just hasn't reached your country. For an example, mobile YouTube in the US lets me minimize the video and multitask while still seeing a picture-in-picture window and the audio, while as soon as one lands on France that feature gets immediately disabled.

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The fact that this is needed and not configurable is so frustrating. I'm almost certain nobody even asked for this. What a great way to stop people ever needing to learn another language. God forbid people use their brains for anything that 30 second shorts.

After 25 you can’t really learn new languages without considerable investment and effort. Translating is the only option for the vast majority of people.

I am not alone in saying that I am a product of learning another language after 25, far after 25. It takes work for sure, and effort. But you're missing the point in that YouTube has now made that level of effort that needs to be committed, impossible.

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#69

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Google has always been a pain when it comes to internationalisation. The number of hoops you have to jump through to get results from the actual Google page when you are outside of the US is mind boggling. I don’t even know if it’s still possible.

> The number of hoops you have to jump through to get results from the actual Google page when you are outside of the US is mind boggling. Do you mean results in English, or results that are specifically US-centric?

Not op. But my experience is both. It's impossible to get Google to search for a specific region in a specific language. DuckDuckGo is far better on this. You can use add regions to search for, and quickly toggle them.

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You gotta remember that "think of the average person, and then remember 50% are dumber than that". By doing this, Youtube has probably 10x'd available content for "dumb" ppl to watch. Respectfully, my parents are in that cohort, and I suspect my father will happily watch AI translated and dubbed woodworking channels and not care at all. He "wins" here. I have to acknowledge that there are probably more people like hi…

What's dumb about watching dubbed woodworking videos? And what part of watching japanese videos in japanese makes superior? You know what's dumb, though: failing to acknowledge that the world is diverse and people have diverse needs that we can't even start to imagine. I'm happy for your dad that AI has opened for him the gates to even more content to watch from around the world about his hobby.

>What's dumb about watching dubbed woodworking videos?

Nothing necessarily as long as the user knows it's dubbed and not the original, and so has the potential to judge whether the content is reliable knowing things may be off. Doing everything as instructed, with just some mistranslated units can be at best frustrating and at worst very dangerous

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