Earlier quoted context omitted.
[flagged]
"It doesn't personally affect me so I don't care."
Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
61–70 of 967 posts
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#62Simulated "immoral" activity could be considered a moral gray area. If nothing else, morality is subjective. So I think it's reasonable to argue for private, individual consumption of morally subjective material (not least of which is the logistical difficulty of preventing such things), as well as the right to create and sell such things. (You or I might approve of or oppose those things, but that's a different argu…
They shouldn't be able to leverage their nigh monopoly on modern payment processing to choose winners and losers in the marketplace.
They are using pornography as a wedge issue to establish that they get to dictate what companies are allowed to exist in the modern distributed market.
It would be entirely reasonable to legally require them to act blindly towards retailers, with restrictions needing to be based on universally applied financial criteria.
Card payments have become inseparable from modern life.
Regulate them as a financial utility. The electric company or water company can't refuse to hook up a business just because the owner doesn't like that business.
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#63I guess Gabe's commitment to freedom of speech on his platform extended as far as nazis, but not as far as porn...
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#64Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
nah. USDC funds can be frozen by Circle on demand/request.
You wouldn’t be buying or holding any USDC in your account. It would be invisible to you
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#66Considering their volume, I find it hard to believe that Valve couldn't find another, more lenient payment processor with similar fees.
They could support a stablecoin like USDC and start pushing people to that. No censorship and lower fees. Valve broke ground with Steam, they could do it again.
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#67What can be done to loosen card companies' grip on this? It has been a constant problem now for decades.
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#68https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Tankard_Reist#Collecti...
What.
Seriously what? I thought pro-choice is a core tenet of feminism?
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#69For those thinking is only related to chargebacks and fraud, it is not. VISA and Mastercard have been banning a lot of content that is not porn but has political values that are disapproved by certain billionaires and investors. There is a bunch of links I wanted to post about, such as US billionaires bragging he personally called VISA CEO to ban content on PH or japanese politicians mad at the censorship of japanese…
And people who laundry money out stolen cards won't do that with nsfw games. They'll do that with CSGO knifes.
Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games
#70The article calls out “certain adult games” which is vague. It is interesting to note that most of the delisted games were themed specifically around incest. https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27 Wondering if this will be a slippery slope towards pulling more anodyne stuff.