Heroku Isn't for Idiots • Hacker News Board

Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots

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Post by heretohelp » Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 11:34 PM UTC

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The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…

Some people may be defending the Platonic ideal of Heroku (multi-AZ, NewSQL, etc.) rather than Heroku as it stands today.

Pretty sure you're right, most seem like they haven't done anything with Heroku than host their 200 uniques a month blog.

Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots

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Post by TehNrd » Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 3:17 AM UTC

benologist wrote: post #60

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Can you shed some light on how you are using HireFireApp with node.js? I thought this was only good for Rails/rack frameworks. Maybe I misunderstood and your main app is rails with some of the other functionality in node.

I couldn't get it to work initially, it just would not recognize my app at all and I couldn't add it. I sent an email and got sent to this new link (not sure if it's launched) which I believe covers the entire Cedar stack rather than anything particular to NodeJS, it pings a provided URL. http://manager.hirefireapp.com/

Awesome. I'll check it out.

Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots

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Post by j-kidd » Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 2:11 PM UTC

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> The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Agree. Those people who tell horror stories about Heroku/EC2, usually give solid numbers, i.e. this was how much I spent, this is how much I save by moving away, and our response time is now X% faster. On the other hand, we have article like this that shows pretty graph for a web app serving 16.2 requests per minute, and make bold claims that…

Here's my pretty graph for serving ~500,000 requests per minute on Heroku: https://api.playtomic.com/load.html Savings aren't exclusively because of Heroku, I also switched the underlying architecture during that migration from C# / ASP.NET to NodeJS which is exceptionally well suited to what I'm doing there. Previously: Dedicated servers, ~$1600 a month 8x dedicated servers at ~$200 each, each running 3 to 5 instanc…

So, another pretty graph for Heroku, yet no comparison to alternatives due to the total architecture change. The numbers are useless for comparison purpose.