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Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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Had you told me back in 1995, that in 30 years we'd have 4K screens and I would only be able to see 10 emails in my inbox at one time... Netscape 2.02 or Microsoft Mail client from back then looks amazing by comparison.

This isn't Thunderbird. This is a Thunderbird theme. Normal Thunderbird still gets two to three dozen email subject lines on the screen. I absolutely love it, I've been using it for over 20 years through the rough and through the good. We're in a good period now, and it's been a good period for quite some time.

just tried installing it in case last time I tried it >5 years ago was during the "rough".

I was impressed that it correctly inferred the IMAP and SMTP settings for my custom domain name, but after using it for ~30 seconds random old emails started appearing at the top of the email list, above my latest emails.

Maybe I'll try again in another 5 years.

edit: someone thinks i didn't wait for imap to finish. I did. My latest email appeared at the top. Then 30 seconds later some ancient emails popped up above it, seemingly triggered by scrolling in the email list pane.

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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JMAP support has been open for 9 years now: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322991

It's wild to me they won't prioritize this. We have good JMAP providers like Fastmail, we just need client support

Isn't Fastmail basically the only one? What other well known provider supports JMAP?

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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> where we are now (tabs on top, no wasted space) Tabs at the top is wasted space, I much prefer my tabs on the side instead, as most web content is taller than it is wide, and I have a widescreen monitor. I understand the choice of tabs on top when 640x480 was the most common resolution, but for desktop usage today? Tabs on top seems like an outdated layout choice.

Not if you're using side-by-side windows.

This. Side by side windows and horizontal splits make it so vertical tabs are not that useful.

TBH in general I find tabs less useful as they multiply. Most of the time I just Cmd+A in chrome to search for the tab I need.

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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1. There is no better open-source alternative for Windows for mail/calendar/contacts client.

Honest question, what do you even need a native client for? What can you do on Thunderbird that you can't on a browser?

Store e-mails offline.

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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This isn't Thunderbird. This is a Thunderbird theme. Normal Thunderbird still gets two to three dozen email subject lines on the screen. I absolutely love it, I've been using it for over 20 years through the rough and through the good. We're in a good period now, and it's been a good period for quite some time.

just tried installing it in case last time I tried it >5 years ago was during the "rough". I was impressed that it correctly inferred the IMAP and SMTP settings for my custom domain name, but after using it for ~30 seconds random old emails started appearing at the top of the email list, above my latest emails. Maybe I'll try again in another 5 years. edit: someone thinks i didn't wait for imap to finish. I did. My l…

Or just maybe click the arrow to sort by date ?

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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post #23

Love the theme. Now if only Thunderbird weren’t a clunky POS. I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve given it another chance after people swear “it’s really better now” again. Still refuses to follow chosen settings for how much mail data to download/store locally (it always eventually downloads everything).

it always eventually downloads everything

I have the opposite problem: I absolutely cannot get it to download everything. What it does do, however, is constantly re-download mail, to the point that it's extremely slow and regularly pops up "folder cannot be compacted because another operation is in progress" errors when I'm just trying to click on folders.

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

#67

Had you told me back in 1995, that in 30 years we'd have 4K screens and I would only be able to see 10 emails in my inbox at one time... Netscape 2.02 or Microsoft Mail client from back then looks amazing by comparison.

I'm to young for Netscape, but do you mean this [^1] interface, that's truncating the subject and hiding the body? Also, which use-cases do you have where you need to see 20 emails at once? [^1]: https://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/netscape_email/ns_4_email.jpg

time to make an email client...

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

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just tried installing it in case last time I tried it >5 years ago was during the "rough". I was impressed that it correctly inferred the IMAP and SMTP settings for my custom domain name, but after using it for ~30 seconds random old emails started appearing at the top of the email list, above my latest emails. Maybe I'll try again in another 5 years. edit: someone thinks i didn't wait for imap to finish. I did. My l…

Or just maybe click the arrow to sort by date ?

lol seriously, my guy didn't even wait until imap was done. what vendetta does he have against Thunderbird

Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design

#70
post #37

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It's wild to me they won't prioritize this. We have good JMAP providers like Fastmail, we just need client support

Isn't Fastmail basically the only one? What other well known provider supports JMAP?

Soon Thundermail by Mozilla!
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