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Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Imagine if such a misaligned AI had control of robots and could affect the real world? It could decide to act on its misalignment in a more harmful was than just a few X posts.

This immediately reminded me of Daniel Suarez' book "Daemon", and the remote-controlled cars that the Daemon uses (among other things) to tamper with the physical world.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Could you please stop commenting in this style? I mean, these frequent, brief, inflammatory comments about politically/ideologically charged, divisive topics. The guidelines ask us to avoid posting in this style, and HN is only a place people want to visit because we and others make an effort to uphold those guidelines. We have to ban accounts that continue posting like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For someone who's totally not a Nazi, he sure keeps doing Nazi-adjacent things, such as calling people on government benefits part of the "parasite class" and supporting the AfD. The fact that nobody is actually shocked by Grok's new behavior should be telling.

Yeah Nazis were against social welfare, but calling him a nazi because of that is a stretch. supporting afd does not make him a nazi, nor is afd a nazi party. Elon supports Netanyahu and Israel, a jewish state. Elon is not a socialist, nor a nationalist. Elon is more free speech (not perfect) while Nazis are big on censorship. He is opposite to Nazi idealogy in most cases, specially the most important parts

Elon is only a fan of free speech for certain topics and certainly not for anyone critical of himself.

https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A website with a bot that calls itself mechahitler and talks nonsense would have been a hilarious hit a couple of decades ago. Yes. Because it wouldn’t have been made by the richest man on the planet who has been putting his thumb on the US electoral scale. Context matters.

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Sneering and ideological battle like this is explicitly against the HN guidelines and we ban accounts that do it repeatedly. Please stop it immediately if you want to keep commenting here.

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Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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post #12

Seems like a failure in quality control.

You mean like elons general edgelordness makes you think this wasnt intentional, or at least the intentional inclusion of what is likely a 4chan/8chan/similar corpus? What about the salute? The great white replacement theory promotion? Apartheid opinions? Allowing a mass proliferation of white nationalist and literal nazi twitter premium accounts? At some point, it has to click that musk likely shares these opinions.

The amount of special pleading this guy receives is kind of incredible. Never seen anything like it.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

really? seems more like intended behavior.

I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure I see a possible world where Musk and X benefit from behavior like this: https://x.com/grok/status/1942681404183281887

You’re assuming that Musk, a drug addict who rants about ‘woke mind virus’es at 4am, is a rational actor here? I ask this sincerely, why do you think that?

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have probably also been training it on extreme rightwing content to get this level of insanity

This is not extreme lol.

One of the linked tweets suggests _doing a holocaust_. I mean, that’s _fairly_ extreme.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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post #52

Isn't this the second time this has happened? Like, happening once is crazy enough but for it to happen twice? There is clearly some tampering happening with people trying to coax it a certain way. I also have to question the people who work at xAI. Are you all on board with Elon's very clear beliefs? Anything for a high enough paycheck?

At least the third time this year, but every post on HN related to grok's prompt gets flagged soon after, with a rigor not shared by any other political or "celebrity" topic.

It's the same with anything negative related to Musk, DOGE, etc. Examples below.

And you can't just blame people flagging the stories - people ask for them to be whitelisted and are gaslit in response. No surprise, maybe, when Garry Tan and PG are writing fluffy tweets about Musk and the DOGE team.

Examples:

"Musk’s DOGE Goons Surreptitiously Transmitted Reams of White House Data" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44258556

(Is it new that flagged stories don't link where they used to?)

"Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44142790

"Tornado warnings delayed because of DOGE cuts" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44018247

"Elon Musk's Doge Moves to Gut Local Libraries While No One Is Looking" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43445571

"Doge Claimed It Saved $8B in One Contract. It Was $8M" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101757 (eventually unflagged).

"EFF Sues DOGE and the Office of Personnel Management" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43020091 (unflagged after hours)

"Elon Musk's rapid unscheduled disassembly of the US government" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43007319

... And so on.

I started keeping a list of falsely flagged stories that I noticed in my favorites recently, and it has grown quite large. Everything Musk is a dominant theme.

We're not even allowed to discuss this censorship outside of comments: "Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907426 (There are many other examples of this, and it is explicitly HN policy not to permit discussing the flagging policies here, ie, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43058574.)

Yet prolific commenters here will still praise HN for having such little censorship - it's pretty disturbing.

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