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The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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I looked for the right term but force-feeding is what it is. I yesterday also changed my default search engine from Duckduckgo to Ecosia as they seem the only one left not to provide flaky AI summaries. In fact I also tried the communication part - outside of Outlook - but people don't like superficial AI polish

FWIW noai.duckduckgo.com is a thing

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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ChatGPT is the 5th most-visited website on the planet and growing quickly. that’s one of many popular products. Hardly call that unwilling. I bet only something like 8% of Instagram users say they would pay for it. Are we to take this to mean that Instagram is an unpopular product that is rbi g forced on an unwilling public?

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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ChatGPT is the 5th most-visited website on the planet and growing quickly. that’s one of many popular products. Hardly call that unwilling. I bet only something like 8% of Instagram users say they would pay for it. Are we to take this to mean that Instagram is an unpopular product that is rbi g forced on an unwilling public?

I downloaded a Quordle game on Android yesterday. It pushes you to buy a premium subscription, and you know what that gets you? AI chat inside the game.

I'm not unwilling to use AI in places where I choose. But let's not pretend that just because people do use it in one place, they are willing to have it shoved upon them in every other place.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allright, had this recently since i keep forgetting luks commands. How do you set up an encrypted file on linux that can be mounted and accessed same as a hard drive. (note: luks, a few commands) You will see a nonsensical ai summarization, lots of videos and junk websites being promoted then you'll likely find a few blogs with the actual commands needed. Nowhere is there a link to a manual for luks or similar. This…

I asked Google that exact question, and I got an AI summary that looks alright? Please verify if those steps make sense, I pasted them into a text service, it's too much for an HN comment: https://justpaste.it/63eiz It shoed 25 or so URLs as the source.

That wasn't the question. The complaint is the poster can't find anything on Google because the results are now so poor, and your response is "but here's some AI generated slop, which may or may not make any sense."

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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post #32

I’ve observed the opposite—not enough people are leveraging AI, especially in government institutions. Critical time and taxpayer money are wasted on tasks that could be automated with state-of-the-art models. Instead of embracing efficiency, these organizations perpetuate inefficiency at public expense. The same issue plagues many private companies. I’ve seen employees spend days drafting documents that a free tool…

Days to write a document, but you think that it'll only take 30-60 minutes to review AI slop that may, or may not, bear any relationship to the truth?

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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post #12

I noticed that some of his choices contributed to his problem. I haven't been forced into accepting AI (so far) while I've been using duckduckgo for search, libreoffice, protonmail, and linux.

even ddg has integrated AI now and while it can be disabled, the privacy aspect seems to mean that ddg regularily forgets my settings and re-enables the ai features.

maybe i'm doing something wrong here, but even ddg is annoying me with this.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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I feel an urge to build personal local AI bots that would be personal spam filters. AI filtering AI, fight fire with fire. Mostly because the world OP wants is never coming back. Everything will be AI and it's everywhere. I also feel an urge to build spaces in the internet just for humans, with some 'turrets' to protect against AI invasion and exploitation. I just don't know what content would be shared in those spac…

This already exists around 20 years ago and didn't consume as much resources as an AI bot would ... Bayesian-Filters.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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I looked for the right term but force-feeding is what it is. I yesterday also changed my default search engine from Duckduckgo to Ecosia as they seem the only one left not to provide flaky AI summaries. In fact I also tried the communication part - outside of Outlook - but people don't like superficial AI polish

You can completely turn off the AI summaries in DDG.

Yes. https://duckduckgo.com/settings#aifeatures

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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ChatGPT is the 5th most-visited website on the planet and growing quickly. that’s one of many popular products. Hardly call that unwilling. I bet only something like 8% of Instagram users say they would pay for it. Are we to take this to mean that Instagram is an unpopular product that is rbi g forced on an unwilling public?

If I want to use ChatGPT I will go and use ChatGPT myself without a middleman. I don't need every app and website to have it's own magical chat interface that is slow, undiscoverable and makes the stuff up half the time.

Re: The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allright, had this recently since i keep forgetting luks commands. How do you set up an encrypted file on linux that can be mounted and accessed same as a hard drive. (note: luks, a few commands) You will see a nonsensical ai summarization, lots of videos and junk websites being promoted then you'll likely find a few blogs with the actual commands needed. Nowhere is there a link to a manual for luks or similar. This…

Is "How do you set up an encrypted file on linux that can be mounted and accessed same as a hard drive." literally what you put into the search bar? if so, that's the problem. try "mount luks encrypted file" or "luks file mount". too many words and any grammar at all will degrade your results. it's all about keywords edit: after trying it myself i quickly realized the problem - luks related articles are usually about…

Your version assumes that the user knows that luks exists in the first place, OP's does not.
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