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Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

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Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

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My friend and I are so excited about this bot that we're actively looking for AI grants to apply to for funding the purchase! The price is incredible for what you get, but we both work in the public sector :/

We're exploring some options - maybe a rental option in the future. Would like to make it accessible to everyone

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

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What ML algorithms do you intend for full autonomy? Multi Modal LLMs for planning that control the robot by generating s.th. like code? Or s.th. that requires more learning from the environment?

When I click "get in touch" on your github I just land on the website where I can buy the robot. Building the hardware for an autonomous robot is orders of magnitudes easier than the control. Do you think anyone with the capability do develop an autonomus robot will buy this and then just give you the code because its open source?

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

#64

My friend and I are so excited about this bot that we're actively looking for AI grants to apply to for funding the purchase! The price is incredible for what you get, but we both work in the public sector :/

Consider the ROS simulators first, and look at the platforms used in RoboCup events. There are better platforms than Talos or HECTOR around.

It can take years to get a basic bipedal platform operational, and in general it takes 3 times as long to tune the software/firmware. Unless you see actual proof of platform operation for more than a minute, than take any claims as marketing hype.

Could also try a cheap servo hexapod or turtle-bot kit first, as stable well-studied platforms are easier to code on. =3

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

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Hey, just chiming in to say that I think this project is really cool even though it's outside the price range of what I can spend on a cool hobby. I'm disabled, and one thing I'm really interested in long-term for humanoid robots is disability support work. Disability support work involves a huge variety of individual tasks, as many as a typical person will do in their life, so it's a good fit for an extremely genera…

This is really interesting to read about. To be honest, I know very little about this space, but it's something a few people have approached me about tackling.

I do think that this is a great application of a general purpose robot. I'm not sure what the technical timeline will be, but it would certainly be cool for my parents to have such a robot when they are elderly.

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

#66

Hey, just chiming in to say that I think this project is really cool even though it's outside the price range of what I can spend on a cool hobby. I'm disabled, and one thing I'm really interested in long-term for humanoid robots is disability support work. Disability support work involves a huge variety of individual tasks, as many as a typical person will do in their life, so it's a good fit for an extremely genera…

This, to me, is the most compelling and humane application of humanoids. Often I think people jump to humanoids taking jobs, but wow, it would be so incredible for elderly folks to have a humanoid that can help them.

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

#67

What ML algorithms do you intend for full autonomy? Multi Modal LLMs for planning that control the robot by generating s.th. like code? Or s.th. that requires more learning from the environment? When I click "get in touch" on your github I just land on the website where I can buy the robot. Building the hardware for an autonomous robot is orders of magnitudes easier than the control. Do you think anyone with the capa…

My overall plan is basic joystick control -> VLA with RL -> self-supervised embodied representation -> end-to-end RL -> end-to-end control. I suspect there will be some very good multi modal models coming out in the next few years which we might use as base models, although more likely, we will adapt their techniques to work on data from our own robot.

I agree that the hardware is easier than the software - I am a software guy, personally, but I felt that it was important to do the hardware first so at least we can have a baseline product which we can offer to people. I would personally like to work on this software problem (or rather, build a company to work on this problem), and this seems like the right way to go about funding working on this problem.

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

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So the non full autonomy would mean little software upgrades? More do it yourself? Also, what’s the different bt the computes: like what’s the onboard computer running (the 2 options)? Thanks.

Yeah, the basic robot is just a robot, albeit with open-source software and hardware

For compute - we're exploring a few boards right now, but the base model will be something from Amlogic and the higher end model will be something from Nvidia

Re: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots

#70

What ML algorithms do you intend for full autonomy? Multi Modal LLMs for planning that control the robot by generating s.th. like code? Or s.th. that requires more learning from the environment? When I click "get in touch" on your github I just land on the website where I can buy the robot. Building the hardware for an autonomous robot is orders of magnitudes easier than the control. Do you think anyone with the capa…

My overall plan is basic joystick control -> VLA with RL -> self-supervised embodied representation -> end-to-end RL -> end-to-end control. I suspect there will be some very good multi modal models coming out in the next few years which we might use as base models, although more likely, we will adapt their techniques to work on data from our own robot. I agree that the hardware is easier than the software - I am a so…

I like the K-Sim Gym. Im looking forward to fiddle with it a bit when I have more time. I could see that you get something usefull out of people competing on your leaderboard xD

It's my hot take that the next big ML breakthrough needs s.th. that learns from its own actions in an environment, so this goes in the right direction imo.

On the other hand a lot of big companies struggle with self driving cars even though they predicted to build this years ago. Also probably all big AI companies work on AI for autonomous robots. Where do you intend to do s.th. different to get a shot at competing with them (when they have so much more capital)?

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