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TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by Dig1t »

ghushn3 wrote: post #56
prvc wrote: post #36

None of the examples shown in the video are passable hoaxes. They are all obvious burlesque-style parodies, albeit made in bad taste. They all also have clear and prominent hallmarks of AI generation. Anyone fooled by these has got bigger, prior problems than any potential belief instilled by these videos.

The problem is not that they are fooling anyone. No one thinks a woman is marrying a chimpanzee. The problem is that the videos are obviously and openly racist and being spread quite brazenly. If I have to encounter a constant barrage of shitty racist (or sexist, or homophobic, or whatever) material just to exist online, I'm going to pretty quickly feel like garbage. (If not feel unsafe.) Especially if I'm someone wh…

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Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by drdaeman »

jrflowers wrote: post #51
drdaeman wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but I believe the intent matters if we’re trying to identify why this happens. Racism is just less legally dangerous. There would be people posting snuff or CSAM videos, would that “sell”. Make social networks tough on racism and it’ll be sexism next day. Or extremist politics. Or animal abuse. Or, really, anything, as long as people strongly react to it. But, yeah, to avoid any misunderstanding - I didn’t m…

>it’s not the real issue here I like this reasoning. “Trolling” is when people post things to irritate or offend people, so if you see something that’s both racist and offensive then it’s not really racist. If you see somebody posting intentionally offensive racist stuff, and you have no other information about them, you should assume that the offensiveness of their post is an indicator of how not racist they are. Re…

That’s not what I meant, though. When I wrote “not really racist” I meant “the primary cause for posting this is not racism[, but engagement solicitation]”, rather than “not racist”. And it’s not an implication, but only an observation paired with my (and article authors’) guess about the actual intent. I’m sorry for the confusion, I guess I worded that poorly.

But, yeah, as weird as it may sound, you don’t have to be racist (as in believing in racist ideas) to be a racist troll (propagate racist ideas). Publishing and agreeing with are different things, and they don’t always overlap (even if they frequently do). He who had not ever said or wrote some BS without believing a single iota of it but because they wanted to make some effect, throw the stone.

And not sure how sarcastic you were, but nothing I’ve said could possibly mean if something is offensive it’s what somehow makes it less racist.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by jrflowers »

drdaeman wrote: post #62
jrflowers wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it’s not the real issue here I like this reasoning. “Trolling” is when people post things to irritate or offend people, so if you see something that’s both racist and offensive then it’s not really racist. If you see somebody posting intentionally offensive racist stuff, and you have no other information about them, you should assume that the offensiveness of their post is an indicator of how not racist they are. Re…

That’s not what I meant, though. When I wrote “not really racist” I meant “the primary cause for posting this is not racism[, but engagement solicitation]”, rather than “not racist”. And it’s not an implication, but only an observation paired with my (and article authors’) guess about the actual intent. I’m sorry for the confusion, I guess I worded that poorly. But, yeah, as weird as it may sound, you don’t have to b…

> you don’t have to be racist (as in believing in racist ideas) to be a racist troll (propagate racist ideas)

Exactly. Racism has nothing to do with what people say or do, it’s a sort of vibe, so really there is no way of telling if anything or anyone is Real Racist versus fake racist. It is important to point this out b

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by ivape »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #43
ivape wrote: post #17

I think it's fine to fingerprint AI generated images/videos. It's a massive privacy violation but I just can't see any other way. Too many people have always been and will always be unethical.

To what end? You want to fingerprint all AI images and video to catch people who make racist videos in order too to do what? It isn't illegal. If TikTok doesn't like the content they can delete the video and the account. If Google or OpenAI doesn't want the content being created, they can figure out a way to block it, and delete the user's accounts in the meantime. If I told you many 14 year olds were making very sim…

If I told you many 14 year olds were making very similar offensive jokes at lunch in high school

A picture is worth a thousand words. Me saying your mom is so fat that _______ in the lunchroom is different than me saying your mom is so fat in cinematic video format that can go locally viral (your whole school). This is the first time in my life I'm going to say this is not a history is echoing situation. This is a we have entirely gone to the next level, forget what you think you know.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by pcbro141 »

Dig1t wrote: post #61
ghushn3 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is not that they are fooling anyone. No one thinks a woman is marrying a chimpanzee. The problem is that the videos are obviously and openly racist and being spread quite brazenly. If I have to encounter a constant barrage of shitty racist (or sexist, or homophobic, or whatever) material just to exist online, I'm going to pretty quickly feel like garbage. (If not feel unsafe.) Especially if I'm someone wh…

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Your country is currently deporting people for speaking ill of a certain special country in the Middle East (and soon stripping citizenship).

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by tomhow »

Dig1t wrote: post #61
ghushn3 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is not that they are fooling anyone. No one thinks a woman is marrying a chimpanzee. The problem is that the videos are obviously and openly racist and being spread quite brazenly. If I have to encounter a constant barrage of shitty racist (or sexist, or homophobic, or whatever) material just to exist online, I'm going to pretty quickly feel like garbage. (If not feel unsafe.) Especially if I'm someone wh…

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