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Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Got any sources for that bro?

They never do. I always look up users like this after the fact and it’s always clear to me they got lost in sauce online, ended up on HN, and think they can just get away being edgy in a room full of professional nerd snipers.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to someone from NASA, it was in fact shut down. NASA will eventually re-publish the reports. https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-shutters-majo...

That's a better article than the link, since they actually bothered to get answers to the question from definitive sources. NPR also linked directly to the NOAA copy of the report, lending credence to the "sloppy relocation" theory of the case: https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/61592

Yes cancelling funding and firing all the people involved is indicative of an honest mistake when moving some stuff around.

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That's hopelessly naive. A "misconfiguration" is the excuse they use after the fact when there's enough outrage that they have to put things back the way they were.

I'm not being hopelessly naive. It's certainly possible that they took it down with the explicit intention of hiding information on the internet, but that would also be pretty stupid, since various articles have found the reports on other government servers. So I assume incompetence before malice.

What's already known is that they fired the staff who prepared the report, and are presumably shutting down the agency. Is it really surprising that someone might have turned off the webserver before transferring the domain?

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“The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which coordinated the information in the assessments, did not respond to repeated inquiries” Nobody is jumping to conclusions, lots of climate related information is being scrubbed. This website has been down for at least 12 hours. The fact that the domain is still registered proves precisely nothing. Could it be a misconfiguration? Sure, but available evidence po…

> “The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which coordinated the information in the assessments, did not respond to repeated inquiries”

Except they did, as I found an NPR article with official comment, and there's a link downthread to this much better article about the same thing, again with authoritative reply:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-shutters-majo...

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I just feel extremely sad about the mass quantity of events like this happening right now because they are all aggregate to huge negative effects but the average person knows nothing of it. It feels so unfixable.

They certainly want us to feel like its unfixable, but it's not. Were govt to put the effort into the energy transition that we saw in the early days of covid we could zero our emissions, and relatively quickly. The technology is largely available, it needs to be implemented.

The ties between the fossil fuel industry and the far right are clear. Apathy, indifference, inertia, they are all products of propaganda and updated Cambridge Analytica methods.

Fossil fuel interests will stop at nothing to further their greed.

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The current administration is not merely racists, autocratic, and hell bent on insuring all wealth is held by the oligarch class, it is also engaged in the most venal, short-sighted, and destructive assault on the basic functions of governance and civil society I can imagine. I don't care what one's view is on the appropriate scale and role of federal governance, some operations are best and only accomplished at that…

The administration is so devoid of any value it staggers the mind. The only thing that I can agree with is that our dependence on China is not a good thing (Oh yes, and minimizing governmental fraud and waste) -- the concepts, not any of the actions done to address these concerns.

What makes this mess even more disheartening is that about of third of the population loves it.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up

I think we rely too much on government mandated websites than we do practical common sense that could save lives.

For instance, over 175,000 people die from heat exposure each year across the WHO European Region. Compare that to 1-2k in the US.

In this case, the Don't Look Up scenario is that people don't want to get A/C and governments sometimes make it very hard for them, killing hundreds of thousands because... I don't know why. But at least EU has nice proclamations and accords on the risk of climate change.

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/01-08-2024-statement--h...

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2822854

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