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US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by tokai »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #40
ivape wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

They're not just petty, they're wildly impractical. You can't privatise NOAA and the services it offers. It cannot work at an equivalent level as a private service. Its effectiveness relies on being able to decide what's valuable in purely scientific terms, and those terms don't align with short-term corporate greed. But if you ask these cranks what NOAA actually does, they'll have no clue. They're not just evil, the…

>It cannot work [...] as a private service

But with public contracts it can be a very effective way to line ones pockets with tax payer money.

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Post by mistrial9 »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #7

Here is what will be denied to NOAA, now and going forward Defense Department data also allow hurricane forecasters to see hurricanes as they form, and monitor them in real-time. For example, hurricane experts can see where the center of a newly formed storm is, which allows them to figure out as early as possible what direction it is likely to go, and whether the storm might hit land. That's important for people in…

> it would be ...

lots of ways to fill in that part. iterating the words seems worth the effort. Thinking out loud, there are readers with frame of reference, and movements or politics-in-practice that have frames of reference, in the messaging .. So making a 2x2 square and filling it in.. you can write for the readers and refine, you can align with movements or their spokespersons and refine, all combined with you yourself representing what you are about.

So to complete the exercise.. how many readers of YNews would respond to "that is evil" wording.. how many movements or politics-in-practice would say "that is evil" as part of their outfacing communications.. and how strongly to you, the writer, want to associate the concepts of "that is evil" with respect to other things that you say or think are important.

I write this pedantic screed because this is so, so critical to communicate right now. The narrow rocky valley pass in which to lay an ambush, is completely in place.. the budget strings. Everyone knows that this is raw executive power in action.. it is to be, because I say so, implemented via the purse. I am not sure how much to include those backdrop statements in any impactful messaging though, because "there is no bad news in sales" and popularity or adaption is part of the task.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by morkalork »

sunflowerfly wrote: post #53
leereeves wrote: post #4

> "There are cybersecurity concerns. That's what we're being told." Anyone know what that's about?

They want to privatize it for private gain and to shut down climate change alarms. It is in Project 2025.

Okay and then what? There's already huge issues with getting home insurance in places like Florida, what will they do, force companies to offer it against their will and see them go broke? Convince people that insurance is woke? There are real problems that aren't going away, regardless of their beliefs.

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Post by [deleted] »

ivape wrote: post #23
righthand wrote: post #22

This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0] > Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1] [0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA [1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

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Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by jfengel »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #58
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #7

Here is what will be denied to NOAA, now and going forward Defense Department data also allow hurricane forecasters to see hurricanes as they form, and monitor them in real-time. For example, hurricane experts can see where the center of a newly formed storm is, which allows them to figure out as early as possible what direction it is likely to go, and whether the storm might hit land. That's important for people in…

Wow, they'll literally kill American citizens and American citizens will still overwhelmingly vote for them...

The margin wasn't overwhelming. But if you include the number of people who could have done something about it but failed to, yeah, an overwhelming number allowed it to happen. And, as far as I can tell, will continue to.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by whycombagator »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #7

Here is what will be denied to NOAA, now and going forward Defense Department data also allow hurricane forecasters to see hurricanes as they form, and monitor them in real-time. For example, hurricane experts can see where the center of a newly formed storm is, which allows them to figure out as early as possible what direction it is likely to go, and whether the storm might hit land. That's important for people in…

> NOAA, which oversees the National Hurricane Center, says the loss of the Defense Department data will not lead to less-accurate hurricane forecasts this year. In a statement, NOAA communications director Kim Doster said, "NOAA's data sources are fully capable of providing a complete suite of cutting-edge data and models that ensure the gold-standard weather forecasting the American people deserve."
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