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New IQ research shows why smarter people make better decisions

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Re: New IQ research shows why smarter people make better decisions

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Right, IQ measures some abstract mental capacity, not knowledge. It's not very useful on its own.

It's probably more accurate to say that IQ is a useful indicator of many specific cognitive deficits, and basically unuseful within or above 2SD of the center.

No. even within 1SD there are huge qualitative differences in what people are capable of.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably more accurate to say that IQ is a useful indicator of many specific cognitive deficits, and basically unuseful within or above 2SD of the center.

No. even within 1SD there are huge qualitative differences in what people are capable of.

There are huge qualitative differences between cognitive ability between pairs of people within that range, but IQ stops accurately selecting the more capable of the two. It gets worse as the scores get higher. IQ is not a ranking of cognitive ability.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. even within 1SD there are huge qualitative differences in what people are capable of.

There are huge qualitative differences between cognitive ability between pairs of people within that range, but IQ stops accurately selecting the more capable of the two. It gets worse as the scores get higher. IQ is not a ranking of cognitive ability.

My understanding is that people 75% of a standard deviation bellow average tend to struggle with basic thought experiments.

Yeah when you get into the upper tail it starts to get hard to find things to differentiate people.

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Interesting take! But don't you think that smartness would be something that would work across all/many domains?

Decades of research on the g factor seem to imply that most cognitive tasks are indeed heavily correlated.

Yes and it's not just purely cognitive tasks. In fact, pretty much everything requires you to use your brain, so smarter people tend to do better on pretty much everything regardless of their familiarity/talent for the task at hand.

But this is something most people prefer to ignore because the implications are pretty big and we already had a war around that...

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It's interesting how people always try to find some kind of number to race against. Here's a simple theoretical situation. A brilliant mathematician with very high IQ crashes in the jungle, but is unhurt. Not far from the crash site, there's a tribesman who lived in the jungle all his life. He doesn't know how to read or write. The jungle is filled with predators, spiders and snakes. The sun is setting, the night sta…

You're confusing 'adaptation', 'knowledge', and 'intelligence'. The scientific comparison would be to put the mathematician and (lower IQ for the example) tribesman in the same situation from birth and see which performs better. Now it's still not a given in that situation that the high IQ individual would be better adapted to the environment as physical traits may matter more, but it is probable that the high IQ ind…

Even so called "emotional intelligence" has been shown to been closely linked to general intelligence. Turns out being smarter makes you better at reading people's emotions from stimuli details. This kind of bullshit has been "invented" because there is a belief that intelligent people are "bad" socially when in fact they just don't care or are bored/annoyed when hanging around "regular" people. This study shows one of the reasons: it is difficult to communicate and reason with other people when their prediction/description of stuff is systematically very wrong.

Plenty of people are working very hard to redefine "intelligence" because reality hurts their egos. There is still nonsensical debate about being able to measure it and whatnot even though the research has constantly shown the truth for quite a while now.

I guess that at the start of formalized measures like the meter there were plenty of people to contest how "stupid" it was because it made them shorter than they liked to pretend.

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The problem of measuring intelligence is that most of these techniques reveal more about what we think intelligence is in a specific cultural context. Which means that individuals who rank higher in these tests are those who conform the most to a society expectancies. High level of literacy, proper nutrition during their childhood, proper education, help foster better IQ. Which of course leads to a better understanding of how your own society works, hence to a better evaluation of probabilities. If you have grown up in a family with money, you have a much better understanding of how to benefit from your investments.

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I prefer to think of "smart" as a vector, I'm more interested in the dot-product with the situation at hand.

>I prefer to think of "smart" as a vector, I'm more interested in the dot-product with the situation at hand.

Same, but smarts is a tensor and I do a situational cross product for the hypervolume

Re: New IQ research shows why smarter people make better decisions

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IQ doesn’t measure intelligence. If anything it measures how well a person integrates the educational methodology they have been exposed to.

At best - and it’s a stretch - IQ correlates with intelligence sometimes. It’s far from a reliable measure though.

The problems in testing are obvious. You can depress someone’s results simply by changing the language used in the questions. I.e. you can make Americans score worse by using British English. That’s nothing to do with innate intelligence.

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