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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by MongooseStudios »

ge96 wrote: post #22

I was at Amazon warehouse for a year, I was getting contract offers for 6 months I was like f that wanting security. Eventually I took one and I'm at it now, six fig job. It was crazy though like impossible to get hired unless you went through a recruiter. I don't have a degree but have years of work exp. Edit: I did see some news thing about trying to undo/keep 174.

Yeah, I've heard about that 174 stuff too. Even if it was changed tomorrow and it was the actual reason for all the stagnation in hiring that some people say it is, I would expect it to take months for that impact to start showing up.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by MongooseStudios »

paranoidroid wrote: post #59

I'm still trying to get my foot in the door. Ever since I started building 'raw' pages for people who had either "business ideas" or ran a 100 person sales team, no one has known or respected the difficulty of what goes into what we build or how it is actually a better solution than whatever they were asking for originally. Maybe once I actually break into the industry i will finally find a manager who understands wh…

I feel that right in my soul. The other side of the coin is they are currently destroying the talent pipeline by keeping smart motivated people out of roles where they could learn fast and grow. The myopic strategy(or lack thereof) is astonishing to me.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by MongooseStudios »

ternaryoperator wrote: post #50
sopresatta wrote: post #31

No. But I live and breathe tech even in my spare time[1]. You gotta learn to roll with the sh-t and set boundaries. I hate to say it but turn off HN, this place a hype machine designed to make you feel bad. It's like "Roast and Toast" x 1000 on here, not reality. It's toxic in a very passive-aggressive way (rather than reddit toxic, which is just aggressive). I've been at this since 1988. (Made a few personal bad cho…

> I hate to say it but turn off HN, this place a hype machine designed to make you feel bad. It's like "Roast and Toast" x 1000 on here, not reality. It's toxic in a very passive-aggressive way I have a completely different experience of HN than you do. There are the stray toxic folks, sure, but overall, this is one of the best dev forums--actively moderated, generally filled with intelligent comments, and often offe…

Yeah, it's currently full of AI shovelware because that's what the hype bubble demands, but there's a lot more good stuff here than not.

But they also have only had an account for an hour and clearly didn't read the whole post so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by JohnBooty »

I was feeling burnt out until I got a pretty cool job a couple of years back. Instead of corporate crap we're building a product for scientists. I'm working on a small team with minimal interference. It feels good.

The downside is that this kind of job is rare. If/when this ends I'll probably need to go right back to the corporate grind. I don't have any other marketable skills, nor a financial runway, so.... realistically I need to do this until I die/retire.

I'm both excited and terrified about how the AI thing is going to play out.

I'm a fan. It's obviously the future. But I think it might entirely replace us, or at least 95% of us.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by dehugger »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #53
eikenberry wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you find these positions?

I would also like to know I've never worked in Silicon Valley but every company I've worked for is infected with Silicon Valley brainrot

Look for large companies dealing in physical goods. I work on warehouse software for a company selling motorcycle helmets and bbqs. Its a great intersection of tech and industry.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by [deleted] »

MongooseStudios wrote: post #46
hk1337 wrote: post #45

Sometimes I feel like the guy in the mongodb is webscale video and just want to go get a farm out in the country and shovel pig shit all day.

That video keeps coming up in conversations all over. It's like the universe is trying to tell me something. I just wish I knew what it was. =)

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by TheCowboy »

itsthecourier wrote: post #4

used to see 80-100 lines of good code per programmer. seeing up to 2400 lines a day in 4 hours of deep work. LLMs will greatly reduce the amount of people required, mainly seniors. erode the path for junior training and put further pressure in an industry continually contracting since 2021. the amortization of software developing as R&D expense among many years implemented by the IRS didn't help either

Not primarily the fault of the IRS, as they were just following the law passed in 2017 that didn't go into effect until years later. But there's a chance it gets changed back to the previous way by the same people who passed it.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by pepoluan »

itsthecourier wrote: post #4

used to see 80-100 lines of good code per programmer. seeing up to 2400 lines a day in 4 hours of deep work. LLMs will greatly reduce the amount of people required, mainly seniors. erode the path for junior training and put further pressure in an industry continually contracting since 2021. the amortization of software developing as R&D expense among many years implemented by the IRS didn't help either

> LLMs will greatly reduce the amount of people required, mainly seniors

Nope. LLM is unable to reason about correctness of code, since they only regurgitate code based on "most likely to come next".

Rather, senior programmers will even be more important to check for correctness. And this will likely lead to senior programmer burnout.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

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Post by pepoluan »

protocolture wrote: post #6

Pretty done. Employers: Making it an obligation that I act like we have in house tools that were meant to exist 3 years ago, doing everything manually. Customers: So beholden to their technical debt that they would rather pay ten times the opex than the capex to remove the debt. Shits me to tears.

Sometimes technical debt is kept rather than being fixed because "if we fix this some high-value technologically-challenged clients will no longer be able to use our service."

This is actually solvable but will need an "out of the box" thinking.

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