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NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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They'll be bared from entering into a rounded orbit.

You jest but a Boeing patent on a specific satellite manuever had the effect of decommissioning a satellite. http://www.google.com/patents?vid=6116545

The full story here: http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Boeing_Patent_Shuts_Down...

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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I worked on this project for a few months. We ran everything like a typical agile startup with weekly iterations and a lot of testing "MVPs". Really cool project. Also its all going to be opensourced! http://open.nasa.gov/plan/phonesat/

That's awesome! Is following @NASA_Phonesat the best way to find out when that happens?

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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Wonder if Apple will sue to get an injunction against the launch. :)

Not unless the satellites are rounded of course :)

They also have to ensure there aren't any objects that might bounce back during lift off. :)

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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I worked on this project for a few months. We ran everything like a typical agile startup with weekly iterations and a lot of testing "MVPs". Really cool project. Also its all going to be opensourced! http://open.nasa.gov/plan/phonesat/

That's awesome! Is following @NASA_Phonesat the best way to find out when that happens?

Yep!

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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Of lead? At $10,000/lb launch cost?

Lead wouldn't work anyway - it would make things worse actually. Lead is good for gamma (and X) rays, but very very terrible for cosmic radiation which is protons and neutrons (nucleons). For those you want water. It works like this: For photons you want them absorbed, so heavy metals are great. But it's not possible to absorb nucleons. Instead you want to steal their energy. If you use lead they simply bounce loosin…

You've written an incredibly interesting comment addressing something I had no idea about, thank you.

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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Lead wouldn't work anyway - it would make things worse actually. Lead is good for gamma (and X) rays, but very very terrible for cosmic radiation which is protons and neutrons (nucleons). For those you want water. It works like this: For photons you want them absorbed, so heavy metals are great. But it's not possible to absorb nucleons. Instead you want to steal their energy. If you use lead they simply bounce loosin…

You've written an incredibly interesting comment addressing something I had no idea about, thank you.

You can try it out a bit.

Shoot various size coins at each other and watch how they interact, then try a coin against a wall.

If you have a very slippery surface try making a line of 3 coins (or more if it's super slippery) to bounce against each other.

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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They'll be bared from entering into a rounded orbit.

You jest but a Boeing patent on a specific satellite manuever had the effect of decommissioning a satellite. http://www.google.com/patents?vid=6116545

Patents definitely foster progress by the looks of it.

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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They'll be bared from entering into a rounded orbit.

You jest but a Boeing patent on a specific satellite manuever had the effect of decommissioning a satellite. http://www.google.com/patents?vid=6116545

Perhaps patents will be the last thing that saves human-driven cars.

You can get an injunction against self-driving cars that can do the newly patented three-point-turn (its not prior art because now it uses a COMPUTER system!), but you can't stop a driver from doing it!

Re: NASA to use consumer Android smartphones in new satellites

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Why is it important to make satellites which are cheap to build? Isn't the total cost dominated by the cost of bringing it to orbit anyway?

They are tiny as well, so in one launch you could put a LOT of them up there! For some kinds of operations, it's better to aim for 95% reliability and put quite a few in orbit, than to go to the expense of 99% reliability.

When I think of cell phones in orbit, the thought which comes to mind is "space junk." Putting lots of small objects in orbit cheaply sounds like a good way to increase the odds of something big, expensive, and possibly manned suffering a catastrophic collision.
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