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Airbnb and Vrbo are going downhill like a hippo on a water slide

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Re: Airbnb and Vrbo are going downhill like a hippo on a water slide

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Post by beAbU »

deng wrote: post #53
WinstonSmith84 wrote: post #34

So many bad takes, I'll put that on ignorance: > I’m writing to you from a home rental in France where we had to rent our sheets and towels. Yes, that's a French thing, always has been - sorry if that's the first time the author went to France and rented a private flat there ... > It was on the fifth floor of an apartment building and promised 180-degree views of the city below Well, did that apartment had any review…

> Yes, that's a French thing, always has been - sorry if that's the first time the author went to France and rented a private flat there ... Not just in France, in Germany also not uncommon when renting a "Ferienwohnung". You usually also pay extra for cleaning if you stay for more than a few days. That's just how it works here, but of course it needs to be mentioned in the listing. > Plus, why would you even need a…

I moved from South Africa to Ireland. I definitely miss hanging my clothes out in the summer for 20 minutes and getting bone dry clothes back.

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Post by thefz »

krunck wrote: post #9

The problem is owners rent out their space and try to do all the work from afar. Cleaners are rented and just do what their told. No one really inspects the place between guests. No one maintains anything. It's just maximal profit extraction which turns everything into crap. I would never rent out my home or extra dwelling without greeting the guests in person, being available for assistance, and maybe even showing u…

> It's just maximal profit extraction which turns everything into crap.

Welcome to capitalism, it enshittifed hospitality (among anything else it touched)

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Post by davidivadavid »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #57
WinstonSmith84 wrote: post #34

So many bad takes, I'll put that on ignorance: > I’m writing to you from a home rental in France where we had to rent our sheets and towels. Yes, that's a French thing, always has been - sorry if that's the first time the author went to France and rented a private flat there ... > It was on the fifth floor of an apartment building and promised 180-degree views of the city below Well, did that apartment had any review…

Sure, you're a nomad, so you're used to how things work in other places, but a lot of people aren't, nor do know how to research local customs nor whom to ask before they arrive. I'm not a traveler, so if I suddenly did arrive in France, the whole bedding rental thing is a totally new concept that I'v never heard of before reading your comment. How would I even know to ask about that sort of thing, if my experience w…

Yeah I wonder what would happen if you encountered something different from where you come from while traveling.

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Post by davidivadavid »

moralestapia wrote: post #59
politelemon wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And are you supposed to carry your own sheets in the luggage?

Yes, that's a French thing.

Being French and having traveled in every corner of the country for ~30 years, never once have I heard of that, much less actually traveled with my own linen. Sounds like it's simply some thinly veiled extra charge for cleaning?

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

nottorp wrote: post #51
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This could be a neat addition to substack's platform/design/profits. ---- My local newspaper (the father of NYT) expects its largely-aged population to shell out $35/month for daily prints. Some bozo thought offering a free iPad would really jive with this population ( ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄)

I'm in a gloomy mood. Suppose someone comes up with a platform that allows us to pay 0.05$ for one article. They count articles we've selected and charge us when it makes sense due to credit card fees, probably at $10 worth of views. How long will it take till they start pushing ... a subscription? Pay us $10/month for $12 worth of article views! 20% savings! * * Terms and condisions apply. Your $10/month subscriptio…

>How long will it take till they start pushing ... a subscription?

I think this could be countered by having the platform take (e.g.) 10% of each transaction, which might disincentivize subscription models..?

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Post by nottorp »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #65
nottorp wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a gloomy mood. Suppose someone comes up with a platform that allows us to pay 0.05$ for one article. They count articles we've selected and charge us when it makes sense due to credit card fees, probably at $10 worth of views. How long will it take till they start pushing ... a subscription? Pay us $10/month for $12 worth of article views! 20% savings! * * Terms and condisions apply. Your $10/month subscriptio…

>How long will it take till they start pushing ... a subscription? I think this could be countered by having the platform take (e.g.) 10% of each transaction, which might disincentivize subscription models..?

No no. I mean the micropayment platform will start pushing a subscription to said micropayment platform after a while.

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Post by socalgal2 »

tough wrote: post #27
socalgal2 wrote: post #26

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which is why your investment is not going to pay out. Or at least that's what the article is suggesting. You (and the rest) offered a crap experience. Customers wised up. They're no longer renting.

the main reason of etre of airbnb is to let him and others skip the law and not get a proper license to run a faux-hotel at their second homes. then people can't afford nor rent nor buying homes in their homeplaces, due to these twats buying it all up to -profit-

this is one of those urban legends that seem to make sense but doesn't add up when you check the actual numbers.

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

nottorp wrote: post #66
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How long will it take till they start pushing ... a subscription? I think this could be countered by having the platform take (e.g.) 10% of each transaction, which might disincentivize subscription models..?

No no. I mean the micropayment platform will start pushing a subscription to said micropayment platform after a while.

My ultimate goal is that authors/publishers get paid a little bit of something rather than a massive nothing (because the all-or-nothing subcribing to individual websites isn't happening).

I feel this issue echoes digital piracy, which I was happy to cease until there were dozens of individual platforms created. If you make it easier to not steal than to steal, less people will steal (is my premise, at least).

For background: I am a blue collar electrician, not a techie. I just want a simple method of paying for consumed news — without having to pay for access to an entire newspaper (which I only want to read ONE article).

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