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The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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dear zed ppl, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE configure your language detection properly wrt C and C++! every single editor on earth makes this exact same mistake where they think all C is valid C++ (it's not, at all), and mistakenly recognises C files as C++, even when there's an accompanying compile_commands.json file that specifies a C standard and even when files contain invalid C++ (but valid C)

it's a delightful little editor if it weren't for this thing...

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using it daily on my 1920x1200 laptop screen in Linux and works just fine.

Are you using dark mode? To me, text looks absolutely awful in light mode, but okay in dark mode. Still noticeably worse than any other editors, though.

This may be it.

I use it in dark mode and I am considerably less picky about font rendering than many people commenting on such threads.

Combined, while I can see a difference if I look closely, it doesn't bother me.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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post #40

I was interested in Zed, but lost all interest when they started integrating "AI". I'm tired of "AI" everywhere. I'll just stick with Neovim until something better comes around. Which probably won't happen until after the "AI" bubble bursts.

I didn't tried Zed in a while, are really intrusive the AI features? Can't it be just disabled with some configuration?

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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post #40

I was interested in Zed, but lost all interest when they started integrating "AI". I'm tired of "AI" everywhere. I'll just stick with Neovim until something better comes around. Which probably won't happen until after the "AI" bubble bursts.

I didn't tried Zed in a while, are really intrusive the AI features? Can't it be just disabled with some configuration?

I don't know, I just uninstalled Zed when I read those features got added

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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It's surprisingly slow. Switching files in the tab list has a noticeable delay. Typing is higher latency than both Emacs (lsp-mode activated) and my web browser. Also uses approximately 60MiB more than my Emacs. It starts fast though! I wouldn't complain about this stuff if it wasn't for their tagline being 'it's fast' and they're losing to Emacs Lisp (not a language amenable to being very fast) with a highly optimiz…

> I looked at their plugins, they're compiled into WASM and run in some VM. Maybe that's part of it?

No. The ones I've looked just set up stuff, like launching a language server. They shouldn't be involved in typing.

I think it's related to the GPU usage. It's easy to introduce delays when you do GPU compositing, and the OS will already be doing its own.

As for emacs, IIRC they did some ugly things to update the UI directly instead of going through the normal event loop, which was causing compatibility issues later on.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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post #40

I was interested in Zed, but lost all interest when they started integrating "AI". I'm tired of "AI" everywhere. I'll just stick with Neovim until something better comes around. Which probably won't happen until after the "AI" bubble bursts.

I didn't tried Zed in a while, are really intrusive the AI features? Can't it be just disabled with some configuration?

they are not intrusive but their entire focus changed on that instead of other features. Entire Git view feels abandoned in half done state yet they spent entire month working on AI chats, AI agents, their own AI edit (that's priced 20 per month yet they boast how light and performant it is -- why isn't it free local model then and why its priced worse than copilot?)

They're moving from "making awesome code editor" into yet another "buy our ai" product

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't tried Zed in a while, are really intrusive the AI features? Can't it be just disabled with some configuration?

they are not intrusive but their entire focus changed on that instead of other features. Entire Git view feels abandoned in half done state yet they spent entire month working on AI chats, AI agents, their own AI edit (that's priced 20 per month yet they boast how light and performant it is -- why isn't it free local model then and why its priced worse than copilot?) They're moving from "making awesome code editor" i…

Wouldn’t the addition of the debugger disprove this slant? Huge feature that has nothing to do with AI.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't tried Zed in a while, are really intrusive the AI features? Can't it be just disabled with some configuration?

they are not intrusive but their entire focus changed on that instead of other features. Entire Git view feels abandoned in half done state yet they spent entire month working on AI chats, AI agents, their own AI edit (that's priced 20 per month yet they boast how light and performant it is -- why isn't it free local model then and why its priced worse than copilot?) They're moving from "making awesome code editor" i…

AFAIK they added conflict resolution just recently, so it's not like non-AI features such as Git get no attention at all. And of course the debugger now.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to check out neovim and noticed it's currently sponsored by two AI products! Of course, that's one level removed from actually integrating AI in your product but, still—it's getting harder and harder to avoid altogether.

Oh wow, I hadn't noticed that. I guess it's always possible to return to Vim if Neovim starts showing signs of being steered by its sponsors.

At this rate you're going to be cooking over a campfire and living in a cave in a few years.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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post #15

Zed is fantastic. I've been making the leap from neovim to zed lately, and it's been an great experience. Everything feels snappy, and I love how well they've integrated Vim bindings. Their agent mode is nice as well. It's clearly an underdog to VSCode, so the extension ecosystem isn't quite there yet... but for a lot of the things I've used it for, it's sufficient. The debugger has been the big missing feature for m…

How is Zed with auto-completing Rust code? I love how fast Windsurf and Cursor are with the "tab-tab-tab" code auto-completion, where nearly everything suggested is spot-on and the suggestions keep on rolling, almost automating the entire task of refactoring for you. This form of autocomplete works really well with TypeScript and other scripting languages. IntelliJ / RustRover never got anywhere close to that level o…

> How is Zed with auto-completing Rust code?

I think they all use LSP, so whether you use neovim or Zed there shouldn't be a difference? (not 100% sure, but that's my basic understanding of LSP).

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