HELLO Linux Desktops, this is your chance to shine and glow. Stop the stupid infighting on unimportant issues and unite to offer something that is a no-brainer choice for Windows 10 refugees.
Windows 10 EOL
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Re: Windows 10 EOL
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this e-waste when compared to old Mac laptops - many of which are in perfect working order, save Apple arbitrarily stopping OS updates because they were too lazy to maintain or update device drivers. Somehow MS requiring TPM2 for Windows 11 was the end of humanity as we know it, but a Mac with a T2 chip is heralded as progress. If anything many of these PCs will enjoy a second life off eBay in someone's home-l…
I've been buying them off ebay, $80 for a pretty good PC. It's better in many ways than a Raspberry Pi.
My Dad got an old Mac in an auction. As a non-apple person, I just assumed I'd be able to upgrade the OS, however discovered it's unsupported. I ended up installing Debian on it.
Re: Windows 10 EOL
#63>Instead, they made some arbitrary reason to deprecate "old" hardware The criteria was based on hardware mitigation support for Meltdown and Spectre patches. Because at the time those vulnerabilities could be exploited by executing malicious javascript in a browser to steal passwords
> Because at the time those vulnerabilities could be exploited by executing malicious javascript in a browser to steal passwords "could be" is doing a lot of work here. AFAIK there has never been a PoC or active exploit which actually exfiltrates sensitive data from a browser using these vulnerabilities. Anyways, browsers have long since implemented software mitigations. IIRC the real criteria for W11 support has to…
Spook.js was demonstrated to steal passwords from another tab by running innocent-looking JS via the Spectre vulnerability.
Re: Windows 10 EOL
#64Here is a fun quiz - what you think are the best features windows obtained after 7 (and 7 main feature was - is not Vista)? Windows store/apps are terrible, the online integration in the start menu is a torment. Cortana/copilot are useless at best. File search is absurdly slow - to the point where the almost abandonware Everything kicks MS ass. So we are left with only WSL.
built-in multidesktop task view
Re: Windows 10 EOL
#65I'd love it if manufacturers would unlock the BIOS of business-grade laptops when Windows 10 ends, but I don't have any hope. Two of my laptops will just.. die, as I can't install Linux on them.
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#66What was the point in inventing the universal Turing machine if we then just arbitrarily gate it again? Computers were supposed to be different.
My personal take is that we currently have way too little hardware/energy available to perform all possible computations, so we want to prioritize some computations over others.
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#67> So Microsoft decided to produce tons of e-waste for no obvious reason. There's a lot of capable hardware out there, and it would be of software company's interest to support as much hardware as possible. The author then goes on to describe how he's just purchased 3 new Windows 11 licences... (indirectly via new computers)
I'm still not convinced that phone and laptop ewaste is a real problem. They're tiny. I've never actually thrown one away, they're just sitting around, taking less combined space than a nightstand drawer.
It will be waste latest when you die
Re: Windows 10 EOL
#68HELLO Linux Desktops, this is your chance to shine and glow. Stop the stupid infighting on unimportant issues and unite to offer something that is a no-brainer choice for Windows 10 refugees.
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Re: Windows 10 EOL
#69> So Microsoft decided to produce tons of e-waste for no obvious reason. There's a lot of capable hardware out there, and it would be of software company's interest to support as much hardware as possible. The author then goes on to describe how he's just purchased 3 new Windows 11 licences... (indirectly via new computers)
I'm still not convinced that phone and laptop ewaste is a real problem. They're tiny. I've never actually thrown one away, they're just sitting around, taking less combined space than a nightstand drawer.
that might be the case for individuals but not corporations and organizations that also have the most hardware. i know from personal experience that windows 11 hardware requirements e-wasted tens of thousands of mostly perfectly fine computer and that is just a single medium sized organization. counting that up to even just one country is an enormous amount of waste. not to mention all the wasted money better spend elsewhere even your taxes will inevitable be wasted on this.
Re: Windows 10 EOL
#70>Instead, they made some arbitrary reason to deprecate "old" hardware The criteria was based on hardware mitigation support for Meltdown and Spectre patches. Because at the time those vulnerabilities could be exploited by executing malicious javascript in a browser to steal passwords
Pretty much all CPUs from Bulldozer and Sandy Bridge onwards got microcode mitigations through 2018 and 2019. Just about everything older is definitely obsolete from an efficiency standpoint.