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How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by toxican »

doublerabbit wrote: post #56
toxican wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you assume other men want to see that shit either? It's weird, creepy, unprofessional, and weird and creepy. Mostly weird and creepy though. Like are you so lonely and horny that you need to plaster your shit with half-naked women?

None of those things. I personally laugh at it for shits and giggles. "Andy, lol." It's not weird, nor creepy. Unprofessional maybe, but it's a developers morning shit post and humorous for its time. 1999. Stop applying the future on to past antics. If a women had posted a half naked man in ASCII this thread would have different tune.

> If a women had posted a half naked man in ASCII this thread would have different tune.

No, that would be fucking weird too, dude.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by doublerabbit »

toxican wrote: post #61
doublerabbit wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of those things. I personally laugh at it for shits and giggles. "Andy, lol." It's not weird, nor creepy. Unprofessional maybe, but it's a developers morning shit post and humorous for its time. 1999. Stop applying the future on to past antics. If a women had posted a half naked man in ASCII this thread would have different tune.

> If a women had posted a half naked man in ASCII this thread would have different tune. No, that would be fucking weird too, dude.

To you perhaps. I would still find it lol worthy. What makes it "weird" to you?

It's ASCII art, non threatening, and compared to the degraded stuff you can find online is none of that.

What about anthropomorphic animals is that weird to you because I find that idealisation more creepy than a half topless naked woman.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by doublerabbit »

msgodel wrote: post #26
GEBBL wrote: post #24

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I feel this was an ‘of it’s time’ thing, but I am so glad we have moved on from this. I wouldn’t enjoy working in a workplace where this was acceptable.

The consequence is that the workplace is a sterile no mans land and you're better off remote. Like I said: if being there were actually meaningful it might make sense to be there.

And it was. The developer above posted an ascii dragon and the other posted a topless woman. Tasteful too.

Both ASCII artwork of different things. No idea why folk are so riled up about this.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by rietta »

rietta wrote: post #40
dehrmann wrote: post #6

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> Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today. The challenges will be different. Flash loses its charge in 30 years, most disks are encrypted, and on-site physical backups are mostly a thing of the past. The source might survive in a cloud repo, but it'll either be tied up for legal reasons or deleted when the customer stops paying the bill. But storage is cheap and gett…

Data not continuously copied is lost. Ironically the most future proof media is becoming increasingly rare. Those gold layer dvds may last well into the future but the readers will not be available.

A major plot of my fictional book is going to be the resurrection of data from a DVD recovered from an archaeological site in from the ancient North American period (from the pov of the characters). It is a significant challenge fraught with perils, including the professor responsible being threatened with failure after failure in the field, budget cuts, and political barriers. But success will be the first glimpse after thousands of years into the unknown dark age that so little is known about.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by xenadu02 »

This seemed to be a point of confusion in the original story and the video wasn't super clear but:

Pretty much all tape backup software writes headers as it is streaming the file to tape. Just more bytes in the buffer.

For normal restores it consults its local database because that is way faster. If you don't have the local database you do a "Catalog Tape" operation that scans the file headers on the tape to reconstruct the database. For whatever reason ARCServe couldn't complete the catalog with that specific kind of tape. Whether that was the specific version he found or was a general problem with support for those tape drives I don't know.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by selcuka »

n_plus_1_acc wrote: post #41
msgodel wrote: post #36

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[flagged]

I have reported your homophobic comment.

Interesting. How is that comment homophobic? Might be factually incorrect, but not homophobic. Quite the contrary, it implies that women prefer looking at women too.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by selcuka »

bayindirh wrote: post #32
msgodel wrote: post #30

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Mine is a corporate style # rectangle but instead of legal crap it just says "msgodel's laptop/vps/robot/whatever\n Be Nice!"

Mine are old BBS style banners, generally glorifying the hostname, and a small tagline for the server itself, related to its function. A hypothetical DNS server might greet you with "All your zones belong to us!".

> A hypothetical DNS server might greet you with "All your zones belong to us!".

DNS is usually UDP, so it's tricky.

Maybe a database server? We don't even have to modify the original quote.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by darepublic »

secondcoming wrote: post #18
tomashubelbauer wrote: post #15

The source code: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss I enjoyed skimming through this: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss/blob/main/teamS...

Committing ASCII-art of a scantily clad woman is quite the power move.

In those days every save was a commit?

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

gortok wrote: post #31
MyPasswordSucks wrote: post #25

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It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

How about ascii art of a male penis every time you opened your IDE? The point isn’t what you (MyPasswordSucks) would find objectionable, the point is what the median would find objectionable in a professional setting. Luckily we’ve gotten away from the locker room behavior being the median and now the median is approaching good-manners behavior. This is one of the situations where the Overton window shifting makes us…

>makes us better as a species instead of worse.

IMHO it's made the world worse. We're not sterile robots. To deny us mischievous ASCII art is to deny the very things that make us human. Bring on the IDE penis. Make it widescreen if you like. It's not nearly as offensive as having a censoring big brother overlord telling us what is and isn't acceptable for the workers' enjoyment.

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