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WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Re: WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Post by darrenf »

areoform wrote: post #9

In the age of X ditching Twitter and Tweets, I think brand continuity and identity is underrated. The friendly finder logo is such an essential part of MacOS that it's bizarre (at least to me) that they've changed the color symmetry of the face. Why would you do that? It's as iconic as the Apple silhouette for Apple users. If you've ever used MacOS, you've had that face stare back at you. It's a kind face. A friendly…

> The friendly finder logo is such an essential part of MacOS that it's bizarre (at least to me) that they've changed the color symmetry of the face.

> Why would you do that? It's as iconic as the Apple silhouette for Apple users.

> If you've ever used MacOS, you've had that face stare back at you. It's a kind face. A friendly face. An old face. An old friend. Let's keep it that way.

I mean ... not all Apple users, not all MacOS users. I've been using Macs since the late 90s (daily since ~2004) and maybe I'm entirely unique in this, but if you'd asked me prior to TFA and this discussion to describe the Finder icon ... I likely wouldn't have been able to tell you anything except "it's topmost in my Dock". Seriously, I couldn't have told you the colours (nor did I notice that Tahoe has flipped them); I definitely wouldn't have said "essential", "kind" or "friendly"; and I probably wouldn't even have recalled that it's a face. It's just that icon that's always topmost in my Dock that I haven't clicked in years because, well, Spotlight.

Re: WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Post by llm_nerd »

neilv wrote: post #19

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I always find discussion like this fascinating, because this is stuff I just do not care whatsoever about, to such a degree that I'm amazed that other people seem so attached. Maybe it's that I spend my days jumping between platforms, and do absolutely nothing to "personalize" each system, that I've decoupled my identity from some random style choices of an OS. Even functional stuff like the system settings switching to the iOS-style layout is something that I adapted to and never thought about it again, while people are still ranting and railing about this.

A logo slightly changed and I cannot possibly care an iota less. Seeing people say over the top things like "this is the end of the road for me" strikes me as hysterical and ridiculous.

Re: WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Post by SSLy »

pier25 wrote: post #43
noja wrote: post #17

I wish it would break history and let Spotlight and show me the path for the file it has found. Is it 2023/accounts.xlsx or 2024/accounts.xlsx or 2025/accounts.xlsx? Who knows!

Alfred will show you the full path of the search results https://www.alfredapp.com/

how would one compare alfred and raycast? I've never owned a mac before, just got one a month ago.

Re: WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Post by lawgimenez »

WA wrote: post #35
hmate9 wrote: post #25

The entire UI redesign of "liquid glass" looks horrible in its current state. Right now the readability factor on iOS is at an all time low. It feels like a change just for the sake of change. How is it better?

Maybe it's a subtle way to punish non-native apps that recreate UI elements, but do not use SwiftUI. The user gets used to the native way of UI elements and everything else will look odd after a while, forcing developers to ditch everything that isn't truly native.

I think this point was subtly mentioned on the WWDC State of the Union, around the 40:54 mark.

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/102

Re: WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Post by nrvn »

visarga wrote: post #22

If they really want to improve MacOS they should add synonym based search in Settings. I should not be forced to know by heart the arcane speech their marketing department chose to replace consecrated terms. Just today it took me 5 minutes to unearth the Speech Rate settings. It feels like using Siri and not knowing the magic words. Come on Apple, synonym matching is easy. Just use a LLM to generate synonyms to all t…

Synonym search is rocket science. It will take 20 years after they figure out n-gram search (i.e. “srceen time”, “cellluar”, et al.) and keyword search (“Set charge limit”)

And it applies to all apple operating systems.

Basic UX is not sexy nowadays.

Re: WWDC25: macOS Tahoe Breaks Decades of Finder History

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Post by gffrd »

halpow wrote: post #57
WA wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's a subtle way to punish non-native apps that recreate UI elements, but do not use SwiftUI. The user gets used to the native way of UI elements and everything else will look odd after a while, forcing developers to ditch everything that isn't truly native.

Sorry to burst your bubble but users literally do not care "how native it looks" other than the vocal minority online. Never ever heard any non-technical user complain that Spotify does not fit in.

… but people _do_ care about consistency.

They're willing to accept a certain amount of "specialization" for things they care about deeply / use all the time / demand unique approaches, but people like things to look and behave the same when they're pure utility. Which most things are.

People don't complain about Spotify, because (1) the design feels and performs like something Apple would design, and (2) music is something people have feelings about, and so expect differentiation.

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