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Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by kriro »

roenxi wrote: post #4

There is really quite a lot to like about this post: 1) Gentleman is doing citizen science figuring out a small part of the FBI's intelligence gathering/spying apparatus. 2) Random Fediverse drama tidbits. 3) Interesting sysadmin tactics for small server operators. 4) This torswats fellow sounds like a piece of work and gets arrested which adds an interesting subplot. 5) Seems like quite an intelligent writer, I just…

I agree, fantastic writeup with a nice amount of technical detail sprinkled in. This would work really well as a talk at something like the Chaos Communication Congress.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by lmm »

gosub100 wrote: post #60
roenxi wrote: post #4

There is really quite a lot to like about this post: 1) Gentleman is doing citizen science figuring out a small part of the FBI's intelligence gathering/spying apparatus. 2) Random Fediverse drama tidbits. 3) Interesting sysadmin tactics for small server operators. 4) This torswats fellow sounds like a piece of work and gets arrested which adds an interesting subplot. 5) Seems like quite an intelligent writer, I just…

notice the incorrect conclusion he makes. the fbi emails him asking for info about a user, with a screenshot that includes a threat of violence. FSE guy jumps to the conclusion that it's just innocent braggadocio (despite the fact that another CEO was murdered just 6 months ago). jump to end of article: guy has already committed countless acts of violence (by proxy). I'm glad that FSE guy engaged with the feds, but i…

Anyone could be violent, but that screenshot is total weaksauce. Is it even the same guy or just someone random blowing off steam?

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by gosub100 »

slt2021 wrote: post #5

sorry to be this person, but can anyone TLDR this for me?

fbi contacts a guy who runs a free speech website asks who a particular shitposter is. free-speech guy hates the fbi but complies anyway (as best as he can), later finds out shitposter (who finally got arrested) was an actual commit-violence-against-you terrorist.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by roenxi »

lmm wrote: post #62
gosub100 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

notice the incorrect conclusion he makes. the fbi emails him asking for info about a user, with a screenshot that includes a threat of violence. FSE guy jumps to the conclusion that it's just innocent braggadocio (despite the fact that another CEO was murdered just 6 months ago). jump to end of article: guy has already committed countless acts of violence (by proxy). I'm glad that FSE guy engaged with the feds, but i…

Anyone could be violent, but that screenshot is total weaksauce. Is it even the same guy or just someone random blowing off steam?

You doubt the seriousness of the Witch King of Angmar? The Pale King? The man leads a dark host of fell origin! He wears a ring of Power! His threats are clearly entirely credible, it is only a small step from posting on the Fediverse to a siege of the White City and the deaths of a multitude.

Yeah. For the life of me I don't see how someone could see a credible threat in that post. The man could actually murder Fink the same day and the post still wouldn't be evidence of a credible threat; it is just too silly. At best it is evidence he is deranged in addition to the trolling it turned out to be in this case.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by gosub100 »

lmm wrote: post #62
gosub100 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

notice the incorrect conclusion he makes. the fbi emails him asking for info about a user, with a screenshot that includes a threat of violence. FSE guy jumps to the conclusion that it's just innocent braggadocio (despite the fact that another CEO was murdered just 6 months ago). jump to end of article: guy has already committed countless acts of violence (by proxy). I'm glad that FSE guy engaged with the feds, but i…

Anyone could be violent, but that screenshot is total weaksauce. Is it even the same guy or just someone random blowing off steam?

this remark about the threat is incredibly presumptuous:

"it was also clearly absurd, an obvious joke, not a credible threat."

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by saintfire »

mkfs wrote: post #51

> Pedophiles were showing up on FSE. That seems to be a problem with the Fediverse in general. And admittedly, Discord.

Or really anywhere that you can upload a picture and don't tie your real name to.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by lmm »

gosub100 wrote: post #65
lmm wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone could be violent, but that screenshot is total weaksauce. Is it even the same guy or just someone random blowing off steam?

this remark about the threat is incredibly presumptuous: "it was also clearly absurd, an obvious joke, not a credible threat."

That is a completely accurate description of that screenshot IMO. Even if the guy who posted it was making phone calls to get thugs to beat people up and hoping they'd take it further, that post is still clearly absurd, an obvious joke, not a credible threat. This is "96% of serial killers have used bread" stuff.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by hoistbypetard »

gosub100 wrote: post #60
roenxi wrote: post #4

There is really quite a lot to like about this post: 1) Gentleman is doing citizen science figuring out a small part of the FBI's intelligence gathering/spying apparatus. 2) Random Fediverse drama tidbits. 3) Interesting sysadmin tactics for small server operators. 4) This torswats fellow sounds like a piece of work and gets arrested which adds an interesting subplot. 5) Seems like quite an intelligent writer, I just…

notice the incorrect conclusion he makes. the fbi emails him asking for info about a user, with a screenshot that includes a threat of violence. FSE guy jumps to the conclusion that it's just innocent braggadocio (despite the fact that another CEO was murdered just 6 months ago). jump to end of article: guy has already committed countless acts of violence (by proxy). I'm glad that FSE guy engaged with the feds, but i…

The FSE guy is telling a story from 2023. I'd have reached the same conclusion back then also.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by busterarm »

DoctorOW wrote: post #40

> I'd like to also thank fediblock for never fact-checking anything ever Nitpicking time: The link in the blog post just goes to a list of instances that have chosen to defederate. The reason it's not going to any sort of official Fediblock list is because Fediblock was shut down years ago. The author of Fediblock expressed the specific intention of not being definitive in any way and for people to thoroughly cross r…

Fediblock was shutdown in September of '23 and this article is full of timestamps on these events showing they happened before the shutdown.

Re: FSE meets the FBI

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Post by Yeul »

tasn wrote: post #48
immibis wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference between terrorists and freedom fighters is whether they're aligned with my views. When it's the government making the distinction, the difference is whether they're aligned with the government's views.

No it's not. The main difference is that terrorists target civilian population as a means to get what they want, and freedom fighters target military.

Name me one war that didn't target civilians...
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