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Hollywood Is Already Using AI (and Hiding It)

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Re: Hollywood Is Already Using AI (and Hiding It)

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Post by spwa4 »

dingnuts wrote: post #52
taylorius wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech people like it because it isn't good enough to completely replace them yet. The sophisticated, coherent architecture of a well designed system is (for now) still beyond the LLMs, so for tech people, it's still just a wonderful tool. But give it another year, and the worm will turn.

lumberjacks didn't go away when chainsaws were invented; demand for wood rose to meet the falling cost of wood and lumberjacks kept cutting down trees. don't see why it won't be any different for programmers.

In the US, there were entire cities with essentially just lumberjacks. In other words, there used to be a LOT more lumberjacks than there are today, and they were a lot better paid.

Now there are a LOT of software engineers.

Re: Hollywood Is Already Using AI (and Hiding It)

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Post by kristianp »

dingnuts wrote: post #52
taylorius wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech people like it because it isn't good enough to completely replace them yet. The sophisticated, coherent architecture of a well designed system is (for now) still beyond the LLMs, so for tech people, it's still just a wonderful tool. But give it another year, and the worm will turn.

lumberjacks didn't go away when chainsaws were invented; demand for wood rose to meet the falling cost of wood and lumberjacks kept cutting down trees. don't see why it won't be any different for programmers.

What's the equivalent of deforestation in that analogy?

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Post by danielbln »

ordinaryradical wrote: post #35
est31 wrote: post #27

Tech companies love to show off that they are using AI, how they are embracing it, etc. Among engineers, there is also a growing community of folks who embrace tools like Cursor, Chat GPT, Gemini, v0, etc. When it comes to artists, I have less insight but what I see is that they are extremely critical of it and don't like it at all. It's interesting to see that gap in reactions to AI between artists and tech companie…

I’m an artist and also work in tech. Enjoy using AI for work, no interest in using it for my art. Using AI for art is an idiotic proposition for me. If I was going to use AI to write my novel, I would literally be robbing myself of the pleasure of making it myself. If you don’t enjoy perfecting the sentence, maybe don’t be a writer? That’s why there’s a disconnect. I make art for personal fulfillment and the joy of t…

But using AI for art doesn't have to mean "AI does all the art from start to finish", does it? Somehow the discourse about AI art is always weirdly maximalist.

Re: Hollywood Is Already Using AI (and Hiding It)

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Post by taylorius »

dingnuts wrote: post #52
taylorius wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech people like it because it isn't good enough to completely replace them yet. The sophisticated, coherent architecture of a well designed system is (for now) still beyond the LLMs, so for tech people, it's still just a wonderful tool. But give it another year, and the worm will turn.

lumberjacks didn't go away when chainsaws were invented; demand for wood rose to meet the falling cost of wood and lumberjacks kept cutting down trees. don't see why it won't be any different for programmers.

But the chainsaws were never developed to the point that the head of wood supplies could ask them to go and chop some trees down by themselves.

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Post by pseudalopex »

bredren wrote: post #14

This article seems to be three to six months past due. As in the insights are late. >One animator who asked to remain anonymous described a costume designer generating concept images with AI, then hiring an illustrator to redraw them — cleaning the fingerprints, so to speak. “They’ll functionally launder the AI-generated content through an artist,” the animator said. This seems obvious to me. I’ve drawn birthday card…

A prediction does not make a report late. And many things obvious to some people are not obvious to a general audience.

> If the source of the idea cheapens the work I put into it with pencils and time, I’m not sure what to say.

This is a straw man. The idea is part of the product.

> This sounds eerily similar to the messaging around SWE.

Yes. This similarity included how the executive's imagination and the individual contributor's experience differed.

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Post by SoftTalker »

simonw wrote: post #53
SoftTalker wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I'm not interested in "art" created by a computer. A watercolor by a first-grader is more interesting. Same goes for music. If you need AI and autotune, find another way to earn a living.

Do you think the Lord of the Rings movies were bad art?

Don’t know, didn’t watch them. Tried to read the books back in middle school and just could not get into them.

Re: Hollywood Is Already Using AI (and Hiding It)

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Post by bredren »

pseudalopex wrote: post #65
bredren wrote: post #14

This article seems to be three to six months past due. As in the insights are late. >One animator who asked to remain anonymous described a costume designer generating concept images with AI, then hiring an illustrator to redraw them — cleaning the fingerprints, so to speak. “They’ll functionally launder the AI-generated content through an artist,” the animator said. This seems obvious to me. I’ve drawn birthday card…

A prediction does not make a report late. And many things obvious to some people are not obvious to a general audience. > If the source of the idea cheapens the work I put into it with pencils and time, I’m not sure what to say. This is a straw man. The idea is part of the product. > This sounds eerily similar to the messaging around SWE. Yes. This similarity included how the executive's imagination and the individua…

> This is a straw man. The idea is part of the product.

It is a part of the product but I’m not sure I agree it is a straw man. (Side note I just realized the …absolutely no one… meme labels this fallacy!)

In music, few artists can count themselves as capable songwriters, producers, instrumentalist and vocalist recording artists and live performers.

Yet the front page of Rolling Stone is generally reserved for those on the tail end of the full stack of talent described above.

To continue the parallel, in SWE engineers are generally compensated better than non-technical product folks.

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