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Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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I'm surprised that there is anybody still taking seriously "lie detectors". It's just stress provoking tricks. About ibuprofen, here in Spain (and I think the whole Europe), it's BTC (no prescription) until 400mg. Over 400mg you need a prescription. And when it's pills/capsules, it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?) individually sealed. I think everything register as a medicine in Europe has to be BTC. Of cour…

Which doesn’t make sense to me - no one is stopping you from taking two 400mg ibuprofen to make 800mg, etc. I agree that 400mg is sensible dosage for one pill, but you buy a pill sheet of ten , you get 4000mg. But what is the other solution just put everything being a prescription? As for the lie detector test, in the USA it is federally required for sensitive jobs and roles - while it isn’t criminally admissible , d…

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Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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> While in custody, she took a lie detector test, which revealed deception in two key responses[...] It did not. It revealed that the police failed to trick a confession out of her using pseudo-science. > James Lewis refused a polygraph. Sensible move - Especially when journalists interpret LDTs as per above. > They tried enlarging the pharmacy surveillance photo, but the bigger it got, the grainier it got. What did…

I'm surprised that there is anybody still taking seriously "lie detectors". It's just stress provoking tricks. About ibuprofen, here in Spain (and I think the whole Europe), it's BTC (no prescription) until 400mg. Over 400mg you need a prescription. And when it's pills/capsules, it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?) individually sealed. I think everything register as a medicine in Europe has to be BTC. Of cour…

> it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?)

They are often referred to as Blister Packs.

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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post #23

A few pieces of additional context: It's undated but I believe that this article/essay is from 2022. There apparently is a recently released Netflix documentary about this case. James Lewis died in 2023.

> It's undated

I really dislike this trend of leaving off the publication date. It's a key piece of context, especially for nonfiction, where the known facts may have changed since the story was published (as is the case here).

I get that they want the content to seem evergreen and unmoored from the tyranny of the calendar, but unless they intend to constantly monitor/update the facts of the nonfiction, the date ought to be clearly visible.

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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> While in custody, she took a lie detector test, which revealed deception in two key responses[...] It did not. It revealed that the police failed to trick a confession out of her using pseudo-science. > James Lewis refused a polygraph. Sensible move - Especially when journalists interpret LDTs as per above. > They tried enlarging the pharmacy surveillance photo, but the bigger it got, the grainier it got. What did…

I'm surprised that there is anybody still taking seriously "lie detectors". It's just stress provoking tricks. About ibuprofen, here in Spain (and I think the whole Europe), it's BTC (no prescription) until 400mg. Over 400mg you need a prescription. And when it's pills/capsules, it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?) individually sealed. I think everything register as a medicine in Europe has to be BTC. Of cour…

Blister pack is the term you are referencing

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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post #33

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That’s all true when the medicine is made here. More and more of every day medicine these days is made in countries with fewer safety regulations like India and China. FDA may inspect them from to time but they have no jurisdiction to actually do anything about violations.

FDA does have jurisdiction. They may prevent imports from manufacturers who violate FDA regs. Where it is made does not change the rules. https://www.fda.gov/industry/import-program/actions-enforcem...

But, how is strong is the enforcement regime for labs outside the US?

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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> When Pishos smelled an almond-like scent, Donoghue asked the county's chief toxicologist, Michael Schaffer, to test the capsules, and Schaffer's team determined that four of the 44 remaining capsules from the Janus' bottle contained nearly three times the fatal amount of cyanide (From the wiki page) This is super interesting, because there was a NileRed video testing this and finding that cyanide doesn't really sme…

Nile Red has a notoriously poor sense of smell, to the point that it is a running gag in his channels.

I wonder if chemists tend to have impaired sense smell due to inhaling the wrong things too often in their labs?

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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post #67

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Nile Red has a notoriously poor sense of smell, to the point that it is a running gag in his channels.

I wonder if chemists tend to have impaired sense smell due to inhaling the wrong things too often in their labs?

Or people with sensitive noses avoid jobs full of to them bad smelling chemicals.

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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I'm surprised that there is anybody still taking seriously "lie detectors". It's just stress provoking tricks. About ibuprofen, here in Spain (and I think the whole Europe), it's BTC (no prescription) until 400mg. Over 400mg you need a prescription. And when it's pills/capsules, it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?) individually sealed. I think everything register as a medicine in Europe has to be BTC. Of cour…

> it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?) They are often referred to as Blister Packs.

Thanks!

Re: Poison Pill: Is the killer behind 1982 Tylenol poisonings still on the loose?

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised that there is anybody still taking seriously "lie detectors". It's just stress provoking tricks. About ibuprofen, here in Spain (and I think the whole Europe), it's BTC (no prescription) until 400mg. Over 400mg you need a prescription. And when it's pills/capsules, it's sold in pill sheets (is that the name?) individually sealed. I think everything register as a medicine in Europe has to be BTC. Of cour…

Blister pack is the term you are referencing

Thanks!
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