Getting a "Too Many Requests" error is kind of hilarious given the company involved.
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Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
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Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until you make your own website, then you love them
I've made plenty of websites, still don't love them and still get served 5+ captchas sometimes, straight after each other. Perhaps I have to give them money, then I'll love them?
It's still just barking up the wrong tree. You're seeing a downstream effect of widespread abuse on the internet and complaining about people trying to mitigate it.
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
This to me is why I think these tools don't have actual understanding, and are instead producing emergent output from pooling an incomprehensibly large set of pattern-recognized data.
> these tools don't have actual understanding, and are instead producing emergent output from pooling an incomprehensibly large set of pattern-recognized data I mean, bypassing the fact that "actual understanding" doesn't have any consensus about what it is, does it matter if it's "actual understanding" or "kind of understanding", or even "barely understanding", as long as it produces the results you expect?
> as long as it produces the results you expect?
But it's more the case of "until it doesn't produce the results you expect" and then what do you do?
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#64> Again, please check out the commit history -- especially early commits -- to understand how this went.
Direct link to earliest page of history: https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider/commits...
A lot of very explicit & clear prompting, with direct directions to go. Some examples on the first page: https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider/commit/... https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider/commit/...
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Increased productivity means increased opportuntity. There isn't going to be a time (at least not anytime soon) when we can all sit back and say "yup, we have accomplished everything there is to do with software and don't need more engineers".
But there very well might be a time very soon where human's no longer offer economic value to the software engineering process. If you could (and currently you can't) pay an AI $10k/year to do what a human could do in a year, why would you pay the human 6 figures? Or even $20k? Nobody is claiming that human's won't have jobs simply because "we have accomplished everything this is to do". It's that humans will offer z…
And there might be a giant asteroid that strikes the earth a few years down the line ending human civilization.
If there is some magic $10k AI that can fully replace a $200k software engineer then I'd love to see it. Until that happens this entire discussion is science fiction.
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#66On the one hand, I would expect LLMs to be able to crank out such code when prompted by skilled engineers who also understand prompting these tools correctly. OAuth isn’t new, has tons of working examples to steal as training data from public projects, and in a variety of existing languages to suit most use cases or needs. On the other hand, where I remain a skeptic is this constant banging-on that somehow this will…
> where I remain a skeptic is this constant banging-on that somehow this will translate into entirely new things - research, materials science, economies, inventions, etc - because that requires learning “in real time” from information sources you’re literally generating in that moment, not decades of Stack Overflow responses without context.
Personally I hope this will materialize, at the very least because there's plenty of discoveries to be made by cross-correlating discoveries already made; the necessary information should be there, but reasoning capability (both that of the model and that added by orchestration) seems to be lacking. I'm not sure if pure chat is the best way to access it, either. We need better, more hands-on tools to explore the latent spaces of LLMs.
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#67This doesn’t seem like much of a surprise that it’s possible - if you are a security expert, you can make LLMs write secure code.
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#68I very much appreciate the fact that the OP posted not just the code developed by AI but also posted the prompts.
I have tried to develop some code (typically non-web-based code) with LLMs but never seem to get very far before the hallucinations kick in and drive me mad. Given how many other people claim to have success, I figure maybe I'm just not writing the prompts correctly.
Getting a chance to see the prompts shows I'm not actually that far off.
Perhaps the LLMs don't work great for me because the problems I'm working on a somewhat obscure (currently reverse engineering SAP ABAP code to make a .NET implementation on data hosted in Snowflake) and often quite novel (I'm sure there is an OpenAuth implementation on gitbub somewhere from which the LLM can crib).
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#69> Every line was thoroughly reviewed and cross-referenced with relevant RFCs, by security experts with previous experience with those RFCs.
This sounds like coding but slower
Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts
#70If you need to be an expert to use AI tools safely, what does that say about AI tools?