I don't mind captchas to protect forms and such, but given that so many sites want captchas solved for the first GET request, I really wonder how much more CO2 this is going to produce. And when I see "invisible mode", I'd really like to ask the authors if they think their work is a net-positive for the world.
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#62KiwiFarms has had a similar captcha system since they got dropped by Cloudflare
How do you know?
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#63Re: Cap: Lightweight, modern open-source CAPTCHA alternative using proof-of-work
#64At the time, it was an idea based on spam prevention active systems. However, for the browser, there are many issues with such solutions—if you can solve it, then bots can too. It slows them down a little, but that's about it.
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#65If you were doing a lot of scraping, you could just solve this on a GPU in 1/10 or less of the time it takes a human's phone to do it. Generally you need a decent computer to render a webpage while scraping it these days, so I don't see what this is solving.
scrapers usually don't render a webpage, else their scraping wouldn't be efficient at all.
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#66can someone ELI5 how these proof-of-work captchas work under the hood to detect whether i'm a bot or not?
And they (probably?) use the computation power to crack passwords from people to let the government agencies access their accounts...
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
[citation needed]
For which part? Every time a new submission is created on HN, you have a curl script that posts a comment on it shilling your product. (According to the /newest tab there seems to be one submission every few minutes.) What's harder for you to automate: the comment always posts successfully after 500ms, or you get a Cloudflare Turnstile captcha every time?
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#68Did no-one click through to the technical white paper? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374638786_Proof-of-... "Proof-of-Work CAPTCHA with password cracking functionality" The "work" is "to use the distributed power of webusers’ computers" to "obtain suspects’ passwords in order to access encrypted evidence" and "support law enforcement activities". Funny how that isn't mentioned anywhere in the linked site.
"You're not allowed to visit this website unless you submit your computer to being part of the fed's password cracking botnet" that's a whole fresh hell. A better use case is right there in their own description! I'd love my captchas to be little Folding@Home problems.
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#69What does proof-of-work mean here and what makes it easy for humans and hard for bots?
i wrote a bit about it here: https://capjs.js.org/guide/effectiveness.html
I do think that calling this a CAPTCHA when it's not actually intended to distinguish humans from computers is a bit misleading, but I can see why you would do that
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#70I was wondering if more sites will start to drift to a system where they require you to be logged in to an account attached to a SIM card in some ways. I feel like accounts that require phone verification are already similar in that they require a some cost to access. It obviously wouldn't stop a large corporation from buying up thousands of numbers if they needed it for a specific purpose, but it would be prohibitiv…