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KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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I hope they can come up with a solution integrated into KDE where you can have apps running on a VM but appearing as a native Kwin window... Would probably need a helper daemon running on guest OS. I know a similar thing has been done before but would be great to have upstream support from a major DE

That requires a bit of hacking in general, it's not that easy to achieve that with closed source OSes. Windows supports that via RDP, btw.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Do we really need another GUI for kvm/qemu? I thought https://cockpit-project.org cover the idea to develop something like Karton, but who am I to think so =)

Web interfaces are fine for advanced users, but they suck for "standard" users. VMs are hard enough to understand for your average user; the more your UI looks like VirtualBox or VMWare the better

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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I use Arch and love KDE Plasma. It even has a blue light filter. Am never going back to Windows. KDE runs faster, looks nicer, does not have forced adware and telemetry. Great daily driver.

I have been playing with Cachy and Plasma in a VM and I am probably going to install that on my next PC build that I am planning. I am currently dual booting Ubuntu and Windows. I haven't logged into windows in over 6 months so I probably won't even setup dual boot with my next machine.

That is what I use as my main machine - https://i.imgur.com/hbDzVus.png I have been on this setup for a while and it is absolutely the best - clean, fast and customizable.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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I use Arch and love KDE Plasma. It even has a blue light filter. Am never going back to Windows. KDE runs faster, looks nicer, does not have forced adware and telemetry. Great daily driver.

I cane back to plasma after about year of gnome. It made me realize how much I dislike gnome. There are just so many issues. Inhad to solve them with extensions, but then it broke on updates. I couldn't get it to have English as language but ISO units. I had to install an extra app to control startup applications. Fractional scaling and several displays was wonky, made screen recording impossible. My 60fps display ha…

It's really sad what happened with Gnome3.

Gnome2 was a good functional desktop, sure it was copying the 2000s with windows 98/2000 style, but it worked. Hell, even OpenStep is more functional than Gnome3 as a daily computer interface.

Gnome3 targeted a weird mix of incompatible devices, like a windows 8 interface, and kinda failed as a design given the devices it optimized for never took over the market. There's not that many tablets running Gnome or touchscreen laptops anymore.

It's almost like Android took the design team by complete surprise, while they tried to make desktops a tablet experience, but failed at doing both.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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I use Arch and love KDE Plasma. It even has a blue light filter. Am never going back to Windows. KDE runs faster, looks nicer, does not have forced adware and telemetry. Great daily driver.

I have been playing with Cachy and Plasma in a VM and I am probably going to install that on my next PC build that I am planning. I am currently dual booting Ubuntu and Windows. I haven't logged into windows in over 6 months so I probably won't even setup dual boot with my next machine.

If you need an instance of windows at random periods of time, you can always run it as a VM with VirtualBox or KVM/Qemu... or Karton as headlined in the article.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Surprisingly Windows support this with their WSL2. It caught me off guard when i tried to run "nautilus" just for fun.

That's because WSL2 implements an X11 client and sets the DISPLAY variable. X11 network transparency does the rest. You can do the same on Linux, as long as you're to learn how X11 arcane permission system works.

The current architecture is wayland based, with weston and an RDP backend, and the Windows host running an RDP client. X11 apps run on Xwayland within WSL2, so ultimately rendered on the same RDP client.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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I use Arch and love KDE Plasma. It even has a blue light filter. Am never going back to Windows. KDE runs faster, looks nicer, does not have forced adware and telemetry. Great daily driver.

Dude I've been running Ubuntu with Plasma for almost 3 years now as a daily, and it's perfect. It's what windows 7 could've been. Maybe I'm stuck in my ways, but as a dotnet and devops guy, 2020s was the perfect confluence of open source, works on Linux tooling to fully switch over. Rider, datagrip and vscode, and I don't have to deal with docker or wsl anymore. It's beautiful. I only boot into windows now when I have to deal with .net framework OG stuff, and I'm pretty sure I could kill a weekend and get a VM to boot from my windows nvme so I never have to leave.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cane back to plasma after about year of gnome. It made me realize how much I dislike gnome. There are just so many issues. Inhad to solve them with extensions, but then it broke on updates. I couldn't get it to have English as language but ISO units. I had to install an extra app to control startup applications. Fractional scaling and several displays was wonky, made screen recording impossible. My 60fps display ha…

It's really sad what happened with Gnome3. Gnome2 was a good functional desktop, sure it was copying the 2000s with windows 98/2000 style, but it worked. Hell, even OpenStep is more functional than Gnome3 as a daily computer interface. Gnome3 targeted a weird mix of incompatible devices, like a windows 8 interface, and kinda failed as a design given the devices it optimized for never took over the market. There's not…

FWIW (not much) but I love Gnome3.
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