Have you tried writing this article on .. AI? *scnr
Thoughts on thinking
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#62> The fun has been sucked out of the process of creation because nothing I make organically can compete with what AI already produces—or soon will. So the fun, all along, was not in the process of creation itself, but in the fact that the creator could somehow feel superior to others not being able to create? I find this to be a very unhealthy relationship to creativity. My mixer can mix dough better than I can, but…
I mean yeah apparently so for the OP but I’m sure he did not mean for it to be that way intentionally
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#63I admittedly don't use AI as much as many others here, but I have noticed that whenever I take the time to write a hopefully-inciteful response in a place like Reddit, I immediately get people trying to dunk on me by accusing me of being an AI bot.
It makes me not want to participate in those communities (although to be honest, spending less time commenting online would probably be good for me).
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#64> The fun has been sucked out of the process of creation because nothing I make organically can compete with what AI already produces—or soon will. So the fun, all along, was not in the process of creation itself, but in the fact that the creator could somehow feel superior to others not being able to create? I find this to be a very unhealthy relationship to creativity. My mixer can mix dough better than I can, but…
Knowing that what I do anyone can do, no matter how well I'll do it, is discouraging. Because then, what is my purpose? What can I say that I'm good at?
Would you say that the chess players became "purposeless" with Deep Blue, or Go players with Alpha Go?
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Knowing that what I do anyone can do, no matter how well I'll do it, is discouraging. Because then, what is my purpose? What can I say that I'm good at?
Would you say that the chess players became "purposeless" with Deep Blue, or Go players with Alpha Go?
It's interesting that you name those examples, because Lee Sedol, the all-time great Go player, retired shortly after losing to Alpha Go, saying:
"Even if I become the number one, there is an entity that cannot be defeated... losing to AI, in a sense, meant my entire world was collapsing... I could no longer enjoy the game. So I retired." [1, 2]
So for some, yes. It is of course also true that many people derive self-worth and fulfillment from contributing positively to the world, and AI automating the productive work in which they specialize can undermine that.
[1] https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20191127004800315
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/world/asia/lee-saedol-go-...
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#67There's quite a dichotomy going on in software development. With AI, we can all create much more than we ever could before, and make it much better and even in much less time, but what we've lost is the sense of pride that comes with the act of creating/coding, because nowadays:
1) If you wrote most of it yourself then you failed to adequately utilize AI Coding agents and yet...
2) If AI wrote most of it, then there's not exactly that much of a way to take pride in it.
So the new thing we can "take pride in" is our ability to "control" the AI, and it's just not the same thing at all. So we're all going to be "changing jobs" whether we like it or not, because work will never be the same, regardless of whether you're a coder, an artist, a writer, or an AD agency fluff writer. Then again pride is a sin, so just GSD and stop thinking about yourself. :)
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#68My way out of this was to start thinking about what can't the LLMs of the world do and my realization was actually quite simple and quite satisfying.
What LLMs can't replace is network effects. One LLM is good but 10 LLMs/agents working together creating shared history is not replaceable by any LLM no matter how smart it becomes.
So it's simple. Build something that benefit from network effects and you will quickly find new ideas, at least it worked for me.
So now I am exploring ex. synthetic predictions markets via https://www.getantelope.com or
Rethinking myspace but for agents instead like: https://www.firstprinciple.co/misc/AlmostFamous.mp4
AI want's to be social :)
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#69in life and with people I think about a car, knowing when to go and when to stop
some people are all go and no stop. we call them impulsive.
some people may LOOK all go but have wisdom (or luck) behind the scenes putting the brakes on. Example: Tom Cruise does his own stunts, and must have a good sense for how to make it safe enough
What this author touches on is a chief concern with AI. In the name of removing life friction, it removes your brakes. Anything you want to do, just ask AI!
But should you?
I was out the other day, pondering what the word "respect" really means. It's more elusive than simply liking someone. Several times I was tempted to just google it or ask AI, but then how would I develop my own point of view? This kind of thing feels important to have your own point of view on. And it's that we're losing - the things we should think about in this life, we'll be tempted to not anymore. And come out worse for it.
All go, no brakes
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#70True. Now compare that to the creation of the universe and feel your insignificance of never being able to match it's creation in any form. Try to create the code that creates blades of grass. Good luck creating life. AI for all it's worth is a toy. One that shows us our own limitations but replace the word AI with God and understand that we spend a lot of time ruminating over things that don't matter. It's an opinion, don't kill me over it. But Dustin has reached an interesting point. What's the value of our time and effort and where should we place it? If the tools we create can do the things we used to do for "work" and "fun" then we need to get back to doing what only humans were made for. Being human.