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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Apple is releasing Vision OS 2 which lets you do an ultrawide display on the Vision Pro. It looks phenomenal and has no lag

The foveated rendering didn’t look phenomenal for me the last time I tried. It gives the perception of a wide FOV but your peripheral vision is still blurry.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Wow, there's some very nice builds there. I so far I hadn't seen anything that seemed genuinely pocket-able but there are a few there that look like they might work. I'd still really love something that can lock flat and be used on a lap, but that feels doable.

I love kbd.news and was recently struck by the novelty of the Tackle keyboard[0]. Seems rather extreme but my first thought was it could be a great complement to AR glasses. The design could be improved with improved with some tenting, because those keys at the edges will be easy to accidentally trigger when reaching for other keys towards the center. [0] https://kbd.news/Tackle-keyboard-2549.html

I could make people SO uncomfortable if I worked as a receptionist with this strapped on and threw in some very subtle signs of enjoying it. Reminds me of the south park nipple twisting guy. Very cool keyboard for VR and AR though. Can't really think of anything better if you wanted to type something quick in the middle of a physical VR game.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Very cool experiment and the piece is written really well, manages to communicate a ton of relevant information without being overly verbose. One side note though - whats the deal with working in the park/on the bench etc, is the author really able to be productive in an outside environment? I dont think I could ever work like that, either with or without the AR glasses.

Can you explain why you don't think you would be productive outside?

Well I guess for a lot of people it would be self-explanatory, but if I go outside to a park, or to a coffee-shop, or whatever - I go there to enjoy myself, not work. Apart from that, I would not really have the ergonomic benefits of my controlled working environment, not to mention bugs, people walking by, random noise or whatever it is.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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This is my favorite portable keyboard: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/shop/p/keys-to-go2-universal.... Unless they have a way to lock open, foldable keyboards will always subtly bend which is annoying enough for me to ditch the folding part entirely.

I wish they also included the trackpad beneath it. I basically want a laptop base without the screen.

There are various products like https://inateck.com/collections/tablet-keyboard/products/blu....

There’s also https://www.esrgear.com/products/ipad-air-13-2024-ascend-key... which I think are standard Bluetooth as well.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Very cool experiment and the piece is written really well, manages to communicate a ton of relevant information without being overly verbose. One side note though - whats the deal with working in the park/on the bench etc, is the author really able to be productive in an outside environment? I dont think I could ever work like that, either with or without the AR glasses.

The exact same thing jumped out at me, for the opposite reason. I have unlimited data + tethering, so I can use my laptop with fast internet anywhere. That's the big breakthrough for me, not the glasses+phone combo.

Working in a park is amazing. You are still enjoying the ambience/vibe, but yeah, you're also writing a blog post or whatever. For me, that doesn't distract from the park or the productivity. They both enhance each other.

Same with a coffee shop -- this is why coffee shops have wifi passwords, because many people in there are on the internet, soaking up the ambience/vibe.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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> FOV is actually too big [...] Seeing the top and bottom edges of the screen means moving your eyeballs

Or head tracking.[1] Aphysical rotation exaggeration avoids trading eye for neck stress.

> I do feel a little weird wearing these in public, but not that weird.

Non-weird can be an expensive constraint, fruitful to relax if going beyond a minimalism setup. A baseball hat can barnacle quite a bit before people find it remarkable... at least around Boston. For instance, for head tracking, an Intel RealSense, or a hat fisheye camera and tennis ball on the table, or an optical marker on a hat chopstick, can be simpler, easier, lower power, and less expensive, than invoking "and it has to look non-weird". With current tech, that's almost as challenging as "and it has to be a product".

> as these AR glasses continue to improve and Linux continues to be flexible and awesome.

I suggest Nreal (now Xreal) made a bad call here. They developed internally on Ubuntu, but chose to shut out linux. (Caveat: I've not followed in a few years, maybe that's changed.) Unicorn dreams and race to mass market - maybe the right call if everyone started watching media on phones with glasses. But it could have been an inexpensive risk mitigation, and a worthwhile investment once market fit was clearly a long haul. Is there some doc which lays out alternatives for a company who thinks they have a crown-jewel binary blob, to allow the community to wrap it for linux consumption, with minimal "we just throw a blob over the wall - we don't support linuxes" cost? It's been a lot of years that something like TFA has been possible, during which a lot of developers could have been exploring for viable market niches. Instead of... not.

[1] https://x.com/mncharity/status/1225091755667853318#m

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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I wish they also included the trackpad beneath it. I basically want a laptop base without the screen.

I wonder if the keyboard covers for the Microsoft Surface tablets could somehow be repurposed.

That’s a great place to look because they sell this: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-pro-flex-keyboard/...

Tempting!

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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As far as I'm aware, the proposed mechanisms for this have to do with the distance to the focus point -- in other words, the fact that the display is close, not that it's a display. The virtual distance to the display, and hence your eyes' focal distance, is definitely something you can change in VR, and presumably also AR, so I think this would actually presumably be better, wouldn't it?
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